March Madness and Covid-19

[Sooner04]

He ran against the 2nd most popular Republican in the nation, Ted Cruz, in the state of Texas. 4,045,632 Texans voted for him. 4,260,553 voted for Ted Cruz. 50 to 48. 10 years ago, 20 years ago, etc that would be UNTHINKABLE.

Ted Cruz is one of the nation's most unpopular politicians. Beto ran a national campaign for a Texas seat in the Senate, welcomed in a gargantuan amount of cash from all over the country, and STILL couldn't beat a slimeball like Ted Cruz.

Beto should've gone back to Texas and run for the other Senate seat. Instead, he got Presidential stars in his eyes and got smoked in the Democratic primaries.

Ted Cruz.....the second most popular Republican. Good grief. C'mon big.......do your research!

 

[SoonerBounce13]

big, I don't know why you put so much stock in polls but whatever.
I can see why conservatives are optimistic. and I would be too if this was 4 years ago.
But it isn't. Both parties are more extreme.
It will all come down to the middle of the road people. What disgusts them more: socialist leanings of the left or Trump?
I don't know the correct answer.
The other might be the new voters. I would assume the vast majority are going to be more liberal.

 

[thebigabd]

Ted Cruz is one of the nation's most unpopular politicians. Beto ran a national campaign for a Texas seat in the Senate, welcomed in a gargantuan amount of cash from all over the country, and STILL couldn't beat a slimeball like Ted Cruz.

Beto should've gone back to Texas and run for the other Senate seat. Instead, he got Presidential stars in his eyes and got smoked in the Democratic primaries.

Ted Cruz.....the second most popular Republican. Good grief. C'mon big.......do your research!

Ted Cruz was 2nd to Trump in the 2016 primaries in popular vote and delegate count. How are you measuring it?

 

[BCSooners]

It's sad that this has to be explained to you but i guess consider the source..

Yes, shooting 8/11 from 3 v. Calling 1000 supposedly random people and asking them questions worded in all sorts of tricky ways - are not the same..

I'm still waiting on an argument of the numbers that's not your opinion to show that they're fake.

 

[BCSooners]

Are you being obtuse?

Still waiting on an argument that's not you ranting about random things.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I'm just waiting for December when all this will be over and we can move onto the next segment of our disappointing history

 

[BCSooners]

Ted Cruz is one of the nation's most unpopular politicians. Beto ran a national campaign for a Texas seat in the Senate, welcomed in a gargantuan amount of cash from all over the country, and STILL couldn't beat a slimeball like Ted Cruz.

Beto should've gone back to Texas and run for the other Senate seat. Instead, he got Presidential stars in his eyes and got smoked in the Democratic primaries.

Ted Cruz.....the second most popular Republican. Good grief. C'mon big.......do your research!

Slimeball or not that's still way closer than usual for Texas. Just look at Oklahoma to prove how nearly impossible it is for a democrat to win. Edmonds was a great candidate, Stitt was/is atrocious & was associated with Falin, and Stitt still won.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Slimeball or not that's still way closer than usual for Texas. Just look at Oklahoma to prove how nearly impossible it is for a democrat to win. Edmonds was a great candidate, Stitt was/is atrocious & was associated with Falin, and Stitt still won.

What has Stitt done that is atrocious?
And how was he associated with Falin?

 

[mict085]

Still waiting on an argument that's not you ranting about random things.

I disputed the “stats” from abd. Read his post. It’s polling numbers and guesswork. You bringing your basketball stats is hilarious and disingenuous, just as you knew it was.

So, yes. You are being obtuse

 

[hoopsaustin]

Ok, if you don't like polls from Pew, Kaiser, random universities, etc.... Consider this.

There were two socialists on the Democratic ticket in the primary. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

Roughly 13 million Democrats voted for socialist candidates in the primaries. Biden got 18 million votes. Also consider the policies of Bernie and Warren made their way into the official platform of the party, some to a lesser extent. Biden went with an option to buy into Medicare, a half option on tuition free college, etc. But he had to shift or lose to socialist candidates, because the voters in the party want the policies.

In Kentucky.... Progressive candidate Charles Booker raised $3 million to challenge Amy McGrath who raised $40 million and had the support of the entire mainstream Democratic establishment. He lost to her by 2 points in their primary election. 247,000 votes to 232,000 votes. He was running on Medicare For All, Green New Deal, etc. And the voters nearly overcame a 1,000% money disparity in KENTUCKY.

Another very liberal candidate, Beto O'Rourke... Supports people buying into Medicare. Wants to ban military style weapons. Wants Universal prek for kids and families... Wants a huge increase in the minimum wage... wants to ban the death penalty... Supports wealth taxes... Wants to tax corporations and the richest americans over a 10 year period of time to fund our move to 100% green energy...

He ran against the 2nd most popular Republican in the nation, Ted Cruz, in the state of Texas. 4,045,632 Texans voted for him. 4,260,553 voted for Ted Cruz. 50 to 48. 10 years ago, 20 years ago, etc that would be UNTHINKABLE.

You can doubt the polls all you want (they aren't wrong, but whatever).... but the shift in voter demographic is obvious to anyone paying attention.

And what was the money spending in that Texas race? Cruz didn't even try and underestimated him and still won. You sound like osu fans.. "well we came REALLY close. Yay!"

 

[hoopsaustin]

I'm still waiting on an argument of the numbers that's not your opinion to show that they're fake.

that's the point. Its subjective and IMO they are wrong. You are just entitled to say they are right. Well see in November. But even the result may not be direct proof of the same. Who the eff knows anything

 

[BCSooners]

What has Stitt done that is atrocious?
And how was he associated with Falin?

Terrible for public education.
No plan for the pandemic.
Constantly saying stupid things.

He was her LT. Governor and was using her for his campaign until he realized it was hurting him.

 

[BCSooners]

I disputed the “stats” from abd. Read his post. It’s polling numbers and guesswork. You bringing your basketball stats is hilarious and disingenuous, just as you knew it was.

So, yes. You are being obtuse

You said they were wrong because you don't believe them, that's not showing the numbers are wrong.

You said you can manipulate any statistics, so I proved you wrong there. I guess that makes me obtuse.

 

[BCSooners]

that's the point. Its subjective and IMO they are wrong. You are just entitled to say they are right. Well see in November. But even the result may not be direct proof of the same. Who the eff knows anything

So you are disputing numbers based on your opinion. Got it.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Terrible for public education.
No plan for the pandemic.
Constantly saying stupid things.

He was her LT. Governor and was using her for his campaign until he realized it was hurting him.

Can you give me specifics on how he is terrible for education?

Oklahoma has faired better than the national average wihtout having crazy restrictions

We all say stupid things. Can you point out some of those stupid things he says?


Can we please get away from these gross generalizations and start using evidence for our claims?

People hated Stitt before he was even elected

 

[BCSooners]

Can you give me specifics on how he is terrible for education?

Oklahoma has faired better than the national average wihtout having crazy restrictions

We all say stupid things. Can you point out some of those stupid things he says?


Can we please get away from these gross generalizations and start using evidence for our claims?

People hated Stitt before he was even elected

Funding $30 million from the education relief fund is going to private schools. Private school vouchers.

Oklahoma is less dense & readily testing wasn't going on until recently. Still doesn't take away from the fact that he had no plan and he even got the virus. Also he was condemned by the White House for not following guidelines in a letter.

He said Oklahomans don't need a 2nd stimulus check.
His war against Tribal Gaming.
He tweeted a picture of him and his family at a restaurant bragging about how packed it was, then the next day declared Oklahoma in a state of emergency over the virus. Then the next day after that he encouraged people to still go to the grocery stores & restaurants.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Funding $30 million from the education relief fund is going to private schools. Private school vouchers.

This literally just happened. And it is a great thing. Why should children going to private school not get relief money from the federal government?

Here is what it is used for

$10 million to a Stay in School Fund for low-income students attending private schools;
$8 million to a Bridge the Gap Digital Wallet program to provide low-income students with $1,500 stipends for curriculum content, technology or tutoring services;
$12 million to a Learn Anywhere OK effort that will provide access to digital content statewide.

How is this bad for education in Oklahoma?

Do you have any other examples besides stuff that just happened?

Oklahoma is less dense & readily testing wasn't going on until recently. Still doesn't take away from the fact that he had no plan and he even got the virus. Also he was condemned by the White House for not following guidelines in a letter.

We are doing better than average. Red states are doing much better than blue states. Nobody had a plan for a pandemic of this size and it would have been a waste of resources to have been prepared for something that nobody knew would come. And I was waiting for the "he was the first governor to contract it" lol. Have we performed great? No. Would edmondson have had better results? Maybe, who knows.

He said Oklahomans don't need a 2nd stimulus check.

This isn't a stupid statement. You may not agree with it. But if you read the whole quote, it isn't as bad as it seems. We hadn't even distributed all of the first money from the cares act.

His war against Tribal Gaming.

He is looking out for the state. I don't see this as stupid. Again, it can be debated but it isn't stupid. Did you know he is a member of the Cherokee Nation?

He tweeted a picture of him and his family at a restaurant bragging about how packed it was, then the next day declared Oklahoma in a state of emergency over the virus. Then the next day after that he encouraged people to still go to the grocery stores & restaurants.

It was stupid to tweet a picture without a mask at a restaurant.
Was it stupid to declare a state of emergency? No
Was it stupid to encourage people to go to the grocery store? I don't think so. Do you want people not to have groceries?

It seems like you have a biased hate for Stitt and none of them are for good reasons.

Falin I can understand. Stitt? He hasn't done anything to earn the hate he is getting.

Oh and I almost forgot...he was never lieutenant governor...unless I was living under a rock. He was never in politics

 

[hoopsaustin]

So you are disputing numbers based on your opinion. Got it.

yes, as are you. Got that?

 

[BCSooners]

This literally just happened. And it is a great thing. Why should children going to private school not get relief money from the federal government?

Here is what it is used for



How is this bad for education in Oklahoma?

I said Public Education. He is allocated to use $40 million & is using $30 of it on Private schools.

Do you have any other examples besides stuff that just happened?
He's also for the tax credit for donors of private school scholarships.

We are doing better than average. Red states are doing much better than blue states. Nobody had a plan for a pandemic of this size and it would have been a waste of resources to have been prepared for something that nobody knew would come. And I was waiting for the "he was the first governor to contract it" lol. Have we performed great? No. Would edmondson have had better results? Maybe, who knows.

He has let the towns/cities on their own with no leadership. He doesn't want the responsibility & our schools are running on their own as well with districts doing their own thing.

This isn't a stupid statement. You may not agree with it. But if you read the whole quote, it isn't as bad as it seems. We hadn't even distributed all of the first money from the cares act.

People need help.
He is looking out for the state. I don't see this as stupid. Again, it can be debated but it isn't stupid. Did you know he is a member of the Cherokee Nation?
Well the Cherokee Nation sued his decision...so

It was stupid to tweet a picture without a mask at a restaurant.
Was it stupid to declare a state of emergency? No
Was it stupid to encourage people to go to the grocery store? I don't think so. Do you want people not to have groceries?
He literally did or said the opposite of his previous stance 3 days in a row.
It seems like you have a biased hate for Stitt and none of them are for good reasons.

Falin I can understand. Stitt? He hasn't done anything to earn the hate he is getting.

Oh and I almost forgot...he was never lieutenant governor...unless I was living under a rock. He was never in politics

I was thinking of Todd Lamb, I was wrong.

 

[BCSooners]

yes, as are you. Got that?

I didn't dispute numbers since you haven't shown any.