March Madness and Covid-19

[sheepdogs1]

In what should be seen as some good news. New York has a death rate of .48% and the national rate is below 1.2% and both have been dropping over the past number of days.

And this would be beautiful if true. Vaccine being developed in weeks.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENC...weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

 

[WTSooner]

In what should be seen as some good news. New York has a death rate of .48% and the national rate is below 1.3% and both have been dropping over the past number of days.

And will continue to decline.

 

[stormspencer]

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

Evidence over hysteria?.....you be the judge.

 

[steverocks35]

In what should be seen as some good news. New York has a death rate of .48% and the national rate is below 1.3% and both have been dropping over the past number of days.

You can't calculate New York's death rate yet because all their cases are active. They literally have zero recovered patients.

But I'm not going to totally rain on the parade, those are good numbers so far, just incomplete.

 

[steverocks35]

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

Evidence over hysteria?.....you be the judge.

I saw that ridiculous article, note that medium added a disclaimer to the top because it's such an irresponsible article. I laughed out loud and stopped reading at "It will burn off in the summer."

Edited to add Medium's disclaimer on this article: "Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov."

 

[sheepdogs1]

You can't calculate New York's death rate yet because all their cases are active. They literally have zero recovered patients.

But I'm not going to totally rain on the parade, those are good numbers so far, just incomplete.

I fully understand your point but we only have so much to go on at any point in time. It is possible that some newly tested just caught the virus while it's also possible they have had it for quite a while.

 

[steverocks35]

I fully understand your point but we only have so much to go on at any point in time. It is possible that some newly tested just caught the virus while it's also possible they have had it for quite a while.

It's not a "point," it's a fact. You can't calculate the death rate yet because it's way too early.

 

[sheepdogs1]

It's not a "point," it's a fact. You can't calculate the death rate yet because it's way too early.

Why are you being so defensive as there was no "dig" by me when I used the word "point." None whatsoever.

 

[stormspencer]

I saw that ridiculous article, note that medium added a disclaimer to the top because it's such an irresponsible article. I laughed out loud and stopped reading at "It will burn off in the summer."

Edited to add Medium's disclaimer on this article: "Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov."

I'm genuinely interested in why you don't think it will "burn off' in the summer. I'm not saying it will, but what is the evidence for/against? Do we know enough yet?

 

[steverocks35]

Why are you being so defensive as there was no "dig" by me when I used the word "point." None whatsoever.

Not being defensive, sorry if I come off that way. It's just that there is a lot of misinformation out there, and it's important to be accurate.

So what I'm trying to say is there is zero chance of drawing any meaningful conclusions yet from the numbers coming from New York, as the pandemic there is in its infancy. You can ask a million "what ifs" and they are meaningless until we get more data that includes closed cases. So far the only closed cases we have in New York are the ~60 deaths.

 

[steverocks35]

I'm genuinely interested in why you don't think it will "burn off' in the summer. I'm not saying it will, but what is the evidence for/against? Do we know enough yet?

We do not know enough yet, and that's such a stupid way for the author to write the paragraph, it makes it clear that he has zero knowledge of infectious diseases.

 

[WTSooner]

It's not a "point," it's a fact. You can't calculate the death rate yet because it's way too early.

Yet you and I argued about this for an entire day earlier this week (or possibly the week before even).

Just like I said then, it's WAY too early have have any idea of what the true mortality rate is. It's too early now. And it was certainly too early a week or more ago.

 

[steverocks35]

Yet you and I argued about this for an entire day earlier this week (or possibly the week before even).

Just like I said then, it's WAY too early have have any idea of what the true mortality rate is. It's too early now. And it was certainly too early a week or more ago.

It's too early in New York, but it's NOT too early in China, Italy, Washington State or other places where we have enough data. The amount of time that passes is not important, it's the data set. We do not have enough data out of New York yet.

 

[sheepdogs1]

We do not know enough yet, and that's such a stupid way for the author to write the paragraph, it makes it clear that he has zero knowledge of infectious diseases.

A surgeon from Johns Hopkins suggest that "novel viruses" peter out after a couple of months. I provided a link to that video recently.

 

[sheepdogs1]

It's too early in New York, but it's NOT too early in China, Italy, Washington State or other places where we have enough data. The amount of time that passes is not important, it's the data set. We do not have enough data out of New York yet.

Washington state stats show it to be .54%

 

[steverocks35]

Washington state stats show it to be .54%

You didn't move your decimal point over far enough. 83/1524=0.054 x 100 = 5.4%

 

[sheepdogs1]

You didn't move your decimal point over far enough. 83/1524=0.054 x 100 = 5.4%

Boy did I #uck up that one. Thanks for "pointing" that out to me.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Which is unfortunate because a lot of that is a total waste of money in the first place. We shouldn't even have bases in Europe, or be enforcing marijuana prohibition, or spending so much on lofty fighter jet projects.

I loved the piece by Elon Musk saying the era of the fighter jet is basically over, but we are spending trillions on them.

Total change of subject, but modern ballistic missiles, drones, and cruise missiles have pinpoint accuracy and can be delivered without a fighter jet. Plus, when you have 7,000 nukes, defense of the homeland becomes a lot simpler.

This is extremely misinformed. The world with out the United States being the globa military power would be a scary place to live and millions and millions would die

 

[BoulderSooner]

The cdc worst case is 200 mil infected 200k -1.4 mil dead

 

[Eielson]

Things like this should put things into perspective yet i have seen numerous articles focused on how green house gas emissions have been lowered because of the pandemic. Can you say self serving!

Global warming should hire coronavirus' publicist.