March Madness and Covid-19

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hoopsaustin said:
Negative on #2. Already a top 5 president prolly imo.

Funny how the left doesnt revere obama as the golden child he once was tho :ez-laugh:
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Good lord hoops.... I never figured you for a Trump cult kinda guy.
 
coolm said:
That is BS. I watched that news conference you're speaking of and he was incensed that anyone would minimize his credibility over touting it. He went on a rant about it. Revisionist history on your part. go partake of the video again. But watch Dr. Vuong from ATM first:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d59dd-qM
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At the 8 minute mark he says "we do not know." This is what was previously stated by moi. Utilizing one's ears and listening to one's words , whether I like the person or not, is not revisionist in any way. Just is not. Sorry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx8oJCzRJUk&t=2605s
 
hoopsaustin said:
Negative on #2. Already a top 5 president prolly imo.

Funny how the left doesnt revere obama as the golden child he once was tho :ez-laugh:
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What does Obama have to do with it? Where did I say anything about Obama? and I'm the one accused of stereotyping?

I personally wasn't that hot about Obama's performance as President, but I wouldn't want to upset any stereotypes you have established.

Still not sure what obama had to do with any of this. If you're aimlessly trying to make some point then please show me all the obama cheering I did. you'll have to look for it amidst my complaints of drones, gitmo, and failure to address marital equality in his first term.

and here are some more of your political colleagues killing fellow Americans.
https://fox2now.com/news/national/l...Z8CE7GyYfE3SZ0csx2JNuptY2U2yp3WUMilU_Sk9LGR8s
 
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All of you people need to get off of message boards until you have something really important to say other than YOUR opinions.
 
hoopsaustin said:
Pretty easy when half of the other side endorses socialism and their other candidate has dementia lol
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That's not Trump... Trump doesn't = The Party. Trump doesn't = conservatism. I get that you would support the Republican Party because you don't like socialism, but that doesn't mean you have to go all in on Trump.

Trump is nearly every bad thing a person can have. He is a liar. He is petty. He is cruel. He is vindictive. He's dumb. He's a narcissist. Etc. It's amazing how many bad qualities can be attributed to him.

If you want a conservative government, great, you can get that from lots of other people without all the BS that Trump brings. Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Cruz, etc. They will all deliver the policies you want, but not tear the country in half like Trump has.

And to say he is a top 5 President is one of the most insane things I have ever heard, it's a total slap in the face to people like:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
Abraham Lincoln
Theo Roosevelt
Rutherford B. Hayes
Franklin Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Dwight Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Etc...

History will not be favorable to Trump, I am certain of that.
 
sooner8693 said:
All of you people need to get off of message boards until you have something really important to say other than YOUR opinions.
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We are attempting to find things in our life to do as we go through something which is foreign to all us and not some of us. The person who owns this web site gets to make that call and not you of all people. How you gloss over this is beyond my scope. I mean what are the functions of message boards beyond sharing varying opinions? Reciting entries out of the dictionary?
 
thebigabd said:
That's not Trump... Trump doesn't = The Party. Trump doesn't = conservatism. I get that you would support the Republican Party because you don't like socialism, but that doesn't mean you have to go all in on Trump.

Trump is nearly every bad thing a person can have. He is a liar. He is petty. He is cruel. He is vindictive. He's dumb. He's a narcissist. Etc. It's amazing how many bad qualities can be attributed to him.

If you want a conservative government, great, you can get that from lots of other people without all the BS that Trump brings. Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Cruz, etc. They will all deliver the policies you want, but not tear the country in half like Trump has.
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That's a decent summation ABD. Many of his detractors don't really understand him. I actually wrote in a candidate last election because I didn't like my choices. Trump is not Republican, nor is he necessarily conservative.....Trump is Trump.

Trump has personal character issues...no doubt. But so did Clinton, JFK, Churchill and FDR....to name a few. He doesn't usually represent himself very well. He's thin-skinned and doesn't like people disagreeing with him. He is a poor speaker that goes "off script" way too often which leads to mis-statements, exaggerations and lies. He also, at times, doesn't explain his policies very well. I wish he would be more diplomatic and from a personal standpoint, be more dignified in his criticism of his opposition.

Having said that, I have been pleasantly surprised and in agreement with most of his policies. He has governed far more conservative/libertarian that I could have imagined....even though he sucks at explaining it. But by and large, he has produced results. He's taken on China, worked to resolve some issues in the Middle East and made the US energy independent. The economy under his watch (until recently) has been robust.

I think Trump's main appeal to his supporters boils down to one thing.....he fights. He will get in the gutter if he has to....and people love that. I don't necessarily like that at times, but if you punch him.....he punches back twice as hard. Far too often, conservatives in the past would never respond to criticism and basically ignore it.....and let the attacks stick. I believe a large segment of folks on the right had grown tired of being told how bad they were (racist, greedy, sexist, etc.) from the Obama Administration, most of the media, universities, Hollywood, etc. and it finally boiled over. Add to that, another segment of voters were sick of business as usual in DC and clamored for an outsider.

It's just a theory, but IMO....that is how he got elected.
 
There are so many things that Trump says and does that are easy to criticize. It blows my mind that people grasp at straws to invent reasons.
 
thebigabd said:
That's not Trump... Trump doesn't = The Party. Trump doesn't = conservatism. I get that you would support the Republican Party because you don't like socialism, but that doesn't mean you have to go all in on Trump.

Trump is nearly every bad thing a person can have. He is a liar. He is petty. He is cruel. He is vindictive. He's dumb. He's a narcissist. Etc. It's amazing how many bad qualities can be attributed to him.

If you want a conservative government, great, you can get that from lots of other people without all the BS that Trump brings. Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Cruz, etc. They will all deliver the policies you want, but not tear the country in half like Trump has.

And to say he is a top 5 President is one of the most insane things I have ever heard, it's a total slap in the face to people like:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
Abraham Lincoln
Theo Roosevelt
Rutherford B. Hayes
Franklin Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Dwight Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Etc...

History will not be favorable to Trump, I am certain of that.
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Well apparently at least half the country was tired of the trash being put on them by the left.

I’m pro-life, pro heterosexual, white, male, guess middle class.... and for most of Obama’s terms I was considered racist, homophob, anti women, white privileged...

All that crap got real old real quick.

Ya want an abortion...fine don’t use MY tax dollars and say what it is... murder.
Ya want to be gay, fine, don’t get all pissy when I tell you I don’t agree with it nor accept it’s normal.
I’m from euro decent... big deal... my parents worked and sacrificed for us kids.


Just sayin... apparently half of us were tired of the bull crap.
 
steverocks35 said:
He didn't "mention" it. He touted the drug repeatedly on national television and it was irresponsible to do so because it's an unproven drug that is toxic at the wrong dosage.

IIRC the active ingredient in the drug is in the same chemical family as strychnine.

Now people are hoarding the drug and it's hard to obtain for people that need it for legitimate reasons.
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Let me get this straight.

You believe trump Saying there is encouraging evidence to support the 2 drug regimen that is being employed by doctors around the world to fight the virus is irresponsible.

Yet, Obama giving billions of dollars to Iran, making illegal Uranium deals with Russia, and trying to illegally influence the election for Hillary is not irresponsible?

That’s messed up dude.
 
coolm said:
What does Obama have to do with it? Where did I say anything about Obama? and I'm the one accused of stereotyping?

I personally wasn't that hot about Obama's performance as President, but I wouldn't want to upset any stereotypes you have established.

Still not sure what obama had to do with any of this. If you're aimlessly trying to make some point then please show me all the obama cheering I did. you'll have to look for it amidst my complaints of drones, gitmo, and failure to address marital equality in his first term.

and here are some more of your political colleagues killing fellow Americans.
https://fox2now.com/news/national/l...Z8CE7GyYfE3SZ0csx2JNuptY2U2yp3WUMilU_Sk9LGR8s
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Youre actually backing my point up technically bc i bet you were gushing at one point. I just crave consistency and im saying your prediction #2 will be wrong and im pointing out a related concept that i believe is true.
 
thebigabd said:
That's not Trump... Trump doesn't = The Party. Trump doesn't = conservatism. I get that you would support the Republican Party because you don't like socialism, but that doesn't mean you have to go all in on Trump.

Trump is nearly every bad thing a person can have. He is a liar. He is petty. He is cruel. He is vindictive. He's dumb. He's a narcissist. Etc. It's amazing how many bad qualities can be attributed to him.

If you want a conservative government, great, you can get that from lots of other people without all the BS that Trump brings. Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Cruz, etc. They will all deliver the policies you want, but not tear the country in half like Trump has.

And to say he is a top 5 President is one of the most insane things I have ever heard, it's a total slap in the face to people like:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
Abraham Lincoln
Theo Roosevelt
Rutherford B. Hayes
Franklin Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Dwight Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Etc...

History will not be favorable to Trump, I am certain of that.
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Couldn't disagree more with most this bit especially the last
 
thebigabd said:
That's not Trump... Trump doesn't = The Party. Trump doesn't = conservatism. I get that you would support the Republican Party because you don't like socialism, but that doesn't mean you have to go all in on Trump.

Trump is nearly every bad thing a person can have. He is a liar. He is petty. He is cruel. He is vindictive. He's dumb. He's a narcissist. Etc. It's amazing how many bad qualities can be attributed to him.

If you want a conservative government, great, you can get that from lots of other people without all the BS that Trump brings. Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Cruz, etc. They will all deliver the policies you want, but not tear the country in half like Trump has.

And to say he is a top 5 President is one of the most insane things I have ever heard, it's a total slap in the face to people like:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
Abraham Lincoln
Theo Roosevelt
Rutherford B. Hayes
Franklin Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Dwight Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Etc...

History will not be favorable to Trump, I am certain of that.
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For those who have been in the military they go through a thing called "boot camp." Thus newly enlisted soldiers have a drill sergeant to lead them. I wonder how many thought he was a kind and sweet man. You see people can be unrefined and terse and the whole lot, but still be good at what they do. Not everyone needs their hand held when in fact most need a kick to the tuchus (look out below!).


And the country has been a divided one for quite a while for it has not been a contemporary thing.
 
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thebigabd said:
That's not Trump... Trump doesn't = The Party. Trump doesn't = conservatism. I get that you would support the Republican Party because you don't like socialism, but that doesn't mean you have to go all in on Trump.

Trump is nearly every bad thing a person can have. He is a liar. He is petty. He is cruel. He is vindictive. He's dumb. He's a narcissist. Etc. It's amazing how many bad qualities can be attributed to him.

If you want a conservative government, great, you can get that from lots of other people without all the BS that Trump brings. Rubio, Kasich, Bush, Cruz, etc. They will all deliver the policies you want, but not tear the country in half like Trump has.

And to say he is a top 5 President is one of the most insane things I have ever heard, it's a total slap in the face to people like:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
John Quincy Adams
Abraham Lincoln
Theo Roosevelt
Rutherford B. Hayes
Franklin Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson
Dwight Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Etc...

History will not be favorable to Trump, I am certain of that.
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I don’t think trump is a top 5 president and I refuse to defend his bad behavior. However, he’s willing to fight like hell and get things done. Despite the bull**** resist movement out of democrats, he’s done a damn good job with the economy before coronavirus tanked it. All democrats have done since the election is refuse to do the job they were elected to do. He’s the best option we have right now. Hillary is a criminal. Bill was and is a criminal. Obama was a puppet for criminals. I suppose you prefer a president that talks a good game and smiles to your face while he’s stabbing you in the back. I don’t. I hate politicians mostly because they’re professional liars. I hate people that pour honey in your ear while screwing you over and stealing money out of your pocket. That’s what Clinton’s and Obama are, they’re worse than a drug cartel.
 
steverocks35 said:
Did President Obama go on TV daily and pimp cigarettes as a cure for anything? No? Then that analogy is ridiculous.
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He's supporting it by doing it. People look up to leaders. It's hard wired in our brains. Obama is a killer. Facts.
 
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