March Madness and Covid-19

[stormspencer]

I’m a democrat that honestly doesn’t know whether I’m slightly left/right or dead center. I’ll give my view when asked, but being in Oklahoma is exhausting when it comes to politics.

I can understand. Even though we likely disagree on some issues, you've always been a straight-shooter with me when it comes to hoops.....respect.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Italy has been hit hard by the virus. The last couple of days have shown some improvement numbers wise. Hopefully they are turning the corner.

 

[BCSooners]

Whether it's a hobby or not it is either unhealthy or it is not. Hasn't tobacco destroyed enough lives. Is it easier to access tobacco or chloroquine or is it equally accessible.

If you know something is unhealthy then why tell people you do it.

Telling people you do a habit and telling people it might be a cure for a pandemic Virus is entirely different.

 

[BCSooners]

I can understand. Even though we likely disagree on some issues, you've always been a straight-shooter with me when it comes to hoops.....respect.

I respect you as well

 

[sheepdogs1]

Telling people you do a habit and telling people it might be a cure for a pandemic Virus is entirely different.

Do you believe tobacco might be hazardous to one's health.

 

[BCSooners]

Do you believe tobacco might be hazardous to one's health.

Yes but I don’t see anyone touting it as a cure for a virus.

 

[BCSooners]

If you know something is unhealthy then why tell the masses you do it.

I don’t criticize Trump for tanning even though it increases skin cancer.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Yes but I don’t see anyone touting it as a cure for a virus.

According to the CDC 3 out of 10 people who died from cancer died from tobacco related cancer. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people. "It is" versus "it might be."

Yesterday the president said we do not know if it will work. Does that sound like touting to you?

 

[MJSooner]

Italy has been hit hard by the virus. The last couple of days have shown some improvement numbers wise. Hopefully they are turning the corner.

It was doing better, but that changed back to where they were.

After two days of improving on death numbers, they went back to 743 dead in the last 24 hours.

 

[BCSooners]

According to the CDC 3 out of 10 people who died from cancer died from tobacco related cancer. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people. "It is" versus "it might be."

Yesterday the president said we do not know if it will work. Does that sound like touting to you?

At a news conference last week, Mr. Trump falsely stated that the Food and Drug Administration had just approved the use of an anti-malaria medication called chloroquine to treat patients infected with coronavirus. Even after the FDA chief clarified that the drug still needs to be tested for that use, Mr. Trump overstated the drug's potential upside in containing the virus. On Friday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, called Mr. Trump's assertions about hydroxychloroquine "anecdotal" and said there is no evidence that it is effective for COVID-19 patients. But the next day, Mr. Trump was still touting the drug on social media.

Chloroquine is obtained by prescription, and Banner Health is now urging medical providers against prescribing it to people who aren't hospitalized. There are reports of people stockpiling the drug, and people with lupus, who need a version of the medication on a regular basis, say they are struggling to fill their long-standing prescriptions.

The difference between the fish tank cleaning additive that the couple took and the drug used to treat malaria is the way they are formulated.

The World Health Organization has launched a global clinical trial to study the potential effectiveness of a number of drugs to treat coronavirus, including hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.

But Science magazine reports, "In guidance published on Friday, the US Society of Critical Care Medicine said that 'there is insufficient evidence to issue a recommendation on the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in critically ill adults with COVID-19.'" It adds that hydroxychloroquine, in particular, can have side effects, in some cases affecting the heart, which could be a serious concern for vulnerable COVID-19 patients

 

[sheepdogs1]

I don’t criticize Trump for tanning even though it increases skin cancer.

How does he tan?

You don't know how he tans. He plays golf so it could be natural. It could be sprayed on. Or it could be via a tanning bed. Either way you do not know nor does he say.

 

[BCSooners]

According to the CDC 3 out of 10 people who died from cancer died from tobacco related cancer. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people. "It is" versus "it might be."

Yesterday the president said we do not know if it will work. Does that sound like touting to you?

I’ve never heard of someone saying they smoke because Obama said it was okay.

 

[BCSooners]

How does he tan?

You don't know how he tans. He plays golf so it could be natural. It could be sprayed on. Or it could be via a tanning bed. Either way you do not know nor does he say.

Ok Trump saying “grap them by the p***y” means he’s advocating sexual assault?

 

[sheepdogs1]

At a news conference last week, Mr. Trump falsely stated that the Food and Drug Administration had just approved the use of an anti-malaria medication called chloroquine to treat patients infected with coronavirus. Even after the FDA chief clarified that the drug still needs to be tested for that use, Mr. Trump overstated the drug's potential upside in containing the virus. On Friday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, called Mr. Trump's assertions about hydroxychloroquine "anecdotal" and said there is no evidence that it is effective for COVID-19 patients. But the next day, Mr. Trump was still touting the drug on social media.

Chloroquine is obtained by prescription, and Banner Health is now urging medical providers against prescribing it to people who aren't hospitalized. There are reports of people stockpiling the drug, and people with lupus, who need a version of the medication on a regular basis, say they are struggling to fill their long-standing prescriptions.

The difference between the fish tank cleaning additive that the couple took and the drug used to treat malaria is the way they are formulated.

The World Health Organization has launched a global clinical trial to study the potential effectiveness of a number of drugs to treat coronavirus, including hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.

But Science magazine reports, "In guidance published on Friday, the US Society of Critical Care Medicine said that 'there is insufficient evidence to issue a recommendation on the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in critically ill adults with COVID-19.'" It adds that hydroxychloroquine, in particular, can have side effects, in some cases affecting the heart, which could be a serious concern for vulnerable COVID-19 patients

He said yesterday "we don't know." This is not touting.

Doctors are hoarding the drug for individuals themselves cannot hoard it.

The only way it could be approved is if the FDA say so. The only other way is off label prescription by a doctor.

 

[Soonerinkc]

Being intolerant during an intolerant time doesn’t make it right.

Lol typical response... good grief. I can claim you’re intolerant as well since you don’t have the same as MY views.see how simple that is? What makes your stance any better? Nothing

 

[BCSooners]

He said yesterday "we don't know." This is not touting.

Doctors are hoarding the drug for individuals themselves cannot hoard it.

The only way it could be approved is if the FDA say so. The only other way is off label prescription by a doctor.

Why mention it if it’s not known?

We have someone in the medical field on this board saying people are hoarding it.

I have friends who don’t need medical marijuana but get is prescribed.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I’ve never heard of someone saying they smoke because Obama said it was okay.

How many people do you know smoke. Your personal data gathering is not representative of reality. I'm not saying people do things because the president does or doesn't do because that effect is somewhat dubious and overblown.

 

[MJSooner]

Yeah it’s insane, we need a uniform federal response

I disagree to some extent.

I do think we need federal guidelines. But without going into an entirely other conversation or subject, each state should be left to their own decisions and authority. It is why the Anti Federalists won out in 1787, why we are a Constitutional Republic and why we have the 10th Amendment. Even in a time of emergency, we cannot step on the Consitution and the founding principles of our country.

Maybe those federal guidelines have a minimum standard and the state can make that more restrictive at their choosing. But Wyoming shouldn't require the same restrictions as NY based on demographics and population density.

If you feel there should be a uniform federal response to restrictions, that would also mean Trump's Easter goal would lift the restrictions for the entire country, including NY, even if the state is still in dire straits battling the virus.
And I am pretty sure you would not advocate for that option.

 

[BCSooners]

Lol typical response... good grief. I can claim you’re intolerant as well since you don’t have the same as MY views.see how simple that is? What makes your stance any better? Nothing

I’m not demeaning someone because they don’t live by my values or views. I understand people are different from me & respect their way of life even if I don’t understand it & they aren’t harming people based off those beliefs.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Ok Trump saying “grap them by the p***y” means he’s advocating sexual assault?

That was locker room talk. It's all about the exaggeration. Have you ever engaged in locker room talk.