MBB TPT2 TRANSFER PORTAL THREAD 2

[steverocks35]

And the funny thing is, his post wasn't even negative. He just pointed out that his stats came on a bad team in a league worse than ours, but he also said he may turn out to be a very good player. Anyone labeling that post negative or pessimistic is reaching, to say the least.

And contrary to what some are saying, yes, there are sure things in the portal. I'm quite confident that Dickinson isn't going to get to KU and end up averaging 10 and 5.

Right, and being triggered by a message board post is a way worse way to go through life

 

[Maverick008]

And the funny thing is, his post wasn't even negative. He just pointed out that his stats came on a bad team in a league worse than ours, but he also said he may turn out to be a very good player. Anyone labeling that post negative or pessimistic is reaching, to say the least.

And contrary to what some are saying, yes, there are sure things in the portal. I'm quite confident that Dickinson isn't going to get to KU and end up averaging 10 and 5.

Unless he goes down with an injury in summer or fall practice

 

[cvangild]

How could anyone be negative about our recruiting!!!???!!! HOW???!!??? Lol

The six players we're adding are all quality players and will add value. SOrry if you don't see it that way. We have added more that what we have lost though.

You all can carry on though...b!tch and complain some more....it never gets old.

 

[steverocks35]

The six players we're adding are all quality players and will add value. SOrry if you don't see it that way. We have added more that what we have lost though.

You all can carry on though...b!tch and complain some more....it never gets old.

I’m in wait and see mode. I haven’t really said anything negative about the guys we’re bringing in. I just think it’s hilarious how bent out of shape you get over message board posts.

 

[WTSooner]

And the funny thing is, his post wasn't even negative. He just pointed out that his stats came on a bad team in a league worse than ours, but he also said he may turn out to be a very good player. Anyone labeling that post negative or pessimistic is reaching, to say the least.

And contrary to what some are saying, yes, there are sure things in the portal. I'm quite confident that Dickinson isn't going to get to KU and end up averaging 10 and 5.

I had missed his reply, but agree with you and steve. That was not meant to be a negative post at all, I'm actually pretty high on Hugely, just pointing out he isn't a guy with a long track record of success. Blame on that on what you will (injuries, etc), but it's still a fact. I could see him excelling for us next year, and I could see him being a bit underwhelming given the expectations some are already putting on him.

We'll see. That was basically the gist of my post.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

And the funny thing is, his post wasn't even negative. He just pointed out that his stats came on a bad team in a league worse than ours, but he also said he may turn out to be a very good player. Anyone labeling that post negative or pessimistic is reaching, to say the least.

And contrary to what some are saying, yes, there are sure things in the portal. I'm quite confident that Dickinson isn't going to get to KU and end up averaging 10 and 5.

He wasn't being negative? he says that he played on a bad team in a conference that wasn't strong anymore....yet they had two final four teams that season.

if you average 15 and 8 in any power 5 conference you are a pretty solid player.

I shouldn't even have to point the stuff out. Anyone who reads this stuff should be able to see a negative post when they read it.

 

[WTSooner]

The six players we're adding are all quality players and will add value. SOrry if you don't see it that way. We have added more that what we have lost though.

You all can carry on though...b!tch and complain some more....it never gets old.

You probably said the same thing about last year's group.

THAT is why I'm being patient and letting it play out on the court first.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

I had missed his reply, but agree with you and steve. That was not meant to be a negative post at all, I'm actually pretty high on Hugely, just pointing out he isn't a guy with a long track record of success. Blame on that on what you will (injuries, etc), but it's still a fact. I could see him excelling for us next year, and I could see him being a bit underwhelming given the expectations some are already putting on him.

We'll see. That was basically the gist of my post.

I like what Hugley brings. If he is healthy he will be the best post we have had in a while. Your assessment of the ACC was off though. They had two final four teams and 5 tourney teams the year you speak of.

 

[WTSooner]

I like what Hugley brings. If he is healthy he will be the best post we have had in a while. Your assessment of the ACC was off though. They had two final four teams and 5 tourney teams the year you speak of.

My assessment of the ACC was fine. It's a 15 team league. Pitt finished 13th, 6-14 in league play. That means Hugley played a LOT of games against bad teams.

He was wildly inconsistent. 30 one game. 7 the next. He did have some good games against good teams, and he had some stinkers too. His skill set, to me, means his success is likely dependent on matchups and how teams play him over his own skils. The Big 12 has some pretty salty big men. So like I said.....we'll see.

 

[Maverick008]

Except we don't have a starting 4 and very little depth. I think we have more questions than answers at this point.

Not sure I agree with that comment. I would say quite a few things have already been answered:

Lost Sherfield, Cortes, Noland and Bam from the guards' group that contributed at some point last year.

Replaced with McCollum, Darthard, Soares and Cooper (obviously don't know anything about what he brings to the college game).

Add those 4 to Los and Oweh and you now have 6 guys to rotate in for those 3 spots.

Lost Hill and J. Groves at the 4. Have not replaced any of that production to this point that we know of. Could go bigger here with a more traditional low post with what is already on the roster or really need to add more of a stretch 4 starter from the portal.

Back-up 4- Possibly Cole? Again we don't know really what he brings to the table at this point.

Lost T. Groves at the starting 5.

Replaced with Hugley- depending on what your goal was here, I would say it's an upgrade in regards to toughness/athletic ability and inside scoring and a downgrade in regards to shooting from the outside.

Backup 5 is still covered by Godwin and possibly Keita or Northweather

In today's world of the transfer portal, I think depth is going to be a crapshoot for most teams consistently each year until the season starts and you see what you have and hopefully you hit on a lot of the portal and freshmen you bring in.

So with that said, OBVIOUSLY the glaring hole is the starting 4 spot but I don't know if that means they have more questions than answers at this point. Just my opinion

 

[WTSooner]

I like what Hugley brings. If he is healthy he will be the best post we have had in a while. Your assessment of the ACC was off though. They had two final four teams and 5 tourney teams the year you speak of.

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/net-conference

But please, continue telling me how good the ACC was that year.

 

[WTSooner]

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/net-conference

But please, continue telling me how good the ACC was that year.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf?date=2022-04-05

SEVENTH?!?!?

 

[steverocks35]

Not sure I agree with that comment. I would say quite a few things have already been answered:

Lost Sherfield, Cortes, Noland and Bam from the guards' group that contributed at some point last year.

Replaced with McCollum, Darthard, Soares and Cooper (obviously don't know anything about what he brings to the college game).

Add those 4 to Los and Oweh and you now have 6 guys to rotate in for those 3 spots.

Lost Hill and J. Groves at the 4. Have not replaced any of that production to this point that we know of. Could go bigger here with a more traditional low post with what is already on the roster or really need to add more of a stretch 4 starter from the portal.

Back-up 4- Possibly Cole? Again we don't know really what he brings to the table at this point.

Lost T. Groves at the starting 5.

Replaced with Hugley- depending on what your goal was here, I would say it's an upgrade in regards to toughness/athletic ability and inside scoring and a downgrade in regards to shooting from the outside.

Backup 5 is still covered by Godwin and possibly Keita or Northweather

In today's world of the transfer portal, I think depth is going to be a crapshoot for most teams consistently each year until the season starts and you see what you have and hopefully you hit on a lot of the portal and freshmen you bring in.

So with that said, OBVIOUSLY the glaring hole is the starting 4 spot but I don't know if that means they have more questions than answers at this point. Just my opinion

Yes we know WHO we are getting in those spots but the questions are how good they are and how well Moser will deploy them. Tons of questions and after last year I’m not assuming anything. I hope they all exceed expectations obviously

 

[WichitaSooner]

He wasn't being negative? he says that he played on a bad team in a conference that wasn't strong anymore....yet they had two final four teams that season.

if you average 15 and 8 in any power 5 conference you are a pretty solid player.

I shouldn't even have to point the stuff out. Anyone who reads this stuff should be able to see a negative post when they read it.

The season that the ACC had two years ago would be the equivalent of the Big 12 getting 3 teams in. If the Big 12 only got three teams in the field, people would be in shock about how bad a season it was.

Pretty solid player? I absolutely agree. But let's not forget that the post he was replying to asked why he isn't being considered a top 3 portal addition. There is a massive difference between those two things.

 

[CoachTalk]

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10’days of nothing much.

Some need a break. Others. Keep hammering away

 

[Maverick008]

Yes we know WHO we are getting in those spots but the questions are how good they are and how well Moser will deploy them. Tons of questions and after last year I’m not assuming anything. I hope they all exceed expectations obviously

Ok makes sense now. I took it as you not thinking we had as many answers "on paper" at this point. We agree that the team is almost put together but has a glaring hole in the starting lineup at the moment.

Then it's just the stuff we won't know about until the season kicks off and we hopefully win the first game by 20 instead of losing to Sam Houston St. leaving us all worried about the rest of the season from the start

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/net-conference

But please, continue telling me how good the ACC was that year.

Dude.....50% of the Final Four.......what else do you need. Keep pretending that you know what you are talking about.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

My assessment of the ACC was fine. It's a 15 team league. Pitt finished 13th, 6-14 in league play. That means Hugley played a LOT of games against bad teams.

He was wildly inconsistent. 30 one game. 7 the next. He did have some good games against good teams, and he had some stinkers too. His skill set, to me, means his success is likely dependent on matchups and how teams play him over his own skils. The Big 12 has some pretty salty big men. So like I said.....we'll see.

I agree that the Big 12 is solid but why do you insist on trying your best to tear down any kid we get for the sake of tearing them down. If you average 15 and 8 in ANT power 5 conference you can play.

and EVERY players success depends on matchups and how you play them. That is just a ludicrous analogy.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

The season that the ACC had two years ago would be the equivalent of the Big 12 getting 3 teams in. If the Big 12 only got three teams in the field, people would be in shock about how bad a season it was.

Pretty solid player? I absolutely agree. But let's not forget that the post he was replying to asked why he isn't being considered a top 3 portal addition. There is a massive difference between those two things.

We don't need him to be an all american......but hopefully better than Groves was this year.

 

[WTSooner]

Dude.....50% of the Final Four.......what else do you need. Keep pretending that you know what you are talking about.

Two teams being really good out of a 15 team conference doesn't mean the conference was good. Don't be dumb, I don't have time for it.

AT MOST Pitt played those two teams, what, 4 times during the regular season? AT MOST? Leaves plenty of games against non-Final 4 teams. But you already knew that.