MBB TPT2 TRANSFER PORTAL THREAD 2

[TINY]

Someone has to give the money. It seems everyone wants others to donate it.

Yessir. Some folks don’t realize how much the game has changed for ou hoops in the NIL/portal era. We are not a top 25 program rn because of our reluctance to compete in NIL, arena, fan support. It will not change until we commit ourselves to being a top 25 program. It requires a lot more investment now than ever before.

 

[StoopsBros]

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[WTSooner]

Yessir. Some folks don’t realize how much the game has changed for ou hoops in the NIL/portal era. We are not a top 25 program rn because of our reluctance to compete in NIL, arena, fan support. It will not change until we commit ourselves to being a top 25 program. It requires a lot more investment now than ever before.

Please tell me about the great NIL programs of San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and even UCONN. And their great fan support and basketball facilities.

I'm sure they have both since they were all three in the most recent Final Four.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Please tell me about the great NIL programs of San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and even UCONN. And their great fan support and basketball facilities.

I'm sure they have both since they were all three in the most recent Final Four.

always exceptions and getting lightning in a bottle.
Exceptions don't prove a rule

 

[TINY]

Please tell me about the great NIL programs of San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and even UCONN. And their great fan support and basketball facilities.

I'm sure they have both since they were all three in the most recent Final Four.

Keep your head in the sand if you want.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Keep your head in the sand if you want.

The same could be said for the way some posters continue to act like the on-court product is fine and we were oh-so-close to making the tournament last year.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Please tell me about the great NIL programs of San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and even UCONN. And their great fan support and basketball facilities.

I'm sure they have both since they were all three in the most recent Final Four.

Check in next year and remind us how well they do (except UCONN)

 

[TINY]

The same could be said for the way some posters continue to act like the on-court product is fine and we were oh-so-close to making the tournament last year.

How would the on court product look with a few extra studs in the line up?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

The same could be said for the way some posters continue to act like the on-court product is fine and we were oh-so-close to making the tournament last year.

i haven't seen one poster say the on the court product is fine

 

[WichitaSooner]

i haven't seen one poster say the on the court product is fine

When people post repeatedly about effective FG% and talk about how well we play against the SEC and say that the only reason we missed the tourney is because of how tough the Big 12 is, it sure seems like they feel like things aren't far off from where they need to be.

 

[WTSooner]

always exceptions and getting lightning in a bottle.
Exceptions don't prove a rule

That makes zero sense.

If there are a LOT of exceptions (and there are), then why can't OU be one of them? If there are paths towards having a good team without NIL, facilities, and fan support, what is OU not doing that these other schools are?

And no, getting lucky isn't an appropriate answer.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

When people post repeatedly about effective FG% and talk about how well we play against the SEC and say that the only reason we missed the tourney is because of how tough the Big 12 is, it sure seems like they feel like things aren't far off from where they need to be.

People saying we were more competitive than you let on and being happy with the product are two completely different things.

I think we were closer to being competitive than you do...but I'm far from happy with the product.

 

[hoopsaustin]

That makes zero sense.

If there are a LOT of exceptions (and there are), then why can't OU be one of them? If there are paths towards having a good team without NIL, facilities, and fan support, what is OU not doing that these other schools are?

And no, getting lucky isn't an appropriate answer.

It is largely luck.

Those teams are competing in different leagues and for lower level players against lower level teams and they happened to hit all 7s this year with the players they put together. Id venture to guess that the players had been the same core for a couple (if not more) years too (just a guess). I didnt see how many of them instantly transferred out after this year too (id be curious).

Meanwhile, ou is competing for higher players against better pedigreed teams in the best (historically good) league in the country. We have lost some core players (not to say that other teams have not also and i do not know for a fact that SDSU & FAU did retain their cores for multiple years - that was a hunch). We may very well go off next year, who knows.. but citing SDSU & FAU off of 1 year is a huge stretch

 

[SoonerBounce13]

When people post repeatedly about effective FG% and talk about how well we play against the SEC and say that the only reason we missed the tourney is because of how tough the Big 12 is, it sure seems like they feel like things aren't far off from where they need to be.

haha ok.

I thought you were all about speaking facts.
So speaking facts about this team now means we think we are fine where we are?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

That makes zero sense.

If there are a LOT of exceptions (and there are), then why can't OU be one of them? If there are paths towards having a good team without NIL, facilities, and fan support, what is OU not doing that these other schools are?

And no, getting lucky isn't an appropriate answer.

There are lots of exceptions? We have only had a couple of years of NIL. Do you really think it is going to be common for small schools with little NIL to make it to the final four every year?

There will always be upsets and cinderella teams. The fact that they are underdogs disproves your point. They are underdogs because they don't have the resources other teams do.

But college basketball has been and will continue to (at an even greater degree) be about the blue bloods that have big budgets and big NIL. It is pretty naive to think otherwise

 

[Eielson]

Please tell me about the great NIL programs of San Diego State, Florida Atlantic, and even UCONN. And their great fan support and basketball facilities.

I'm sure they have both since they were all three in the most recent Final Four.

I hope you're kidding including UConn in this list of teams that don't have support or resources.

 

[steverocks35]

If we have zero chance to compete then why even field a team? Why tune in and watch as we struggle to be on the bubble for the tournament? Our program was only behind the elite blue bloods for about 3 decades and now I'm hearing that we just can't compete anymore in this environment. It sounds to me like the university is content with just being a football and now possibly a softball school. Basketball is an afterthought. Maybe this is the new order of NCAA sports. If so I may not last much longer as a fan. Maybe I'm spoiled but I'm not content to cheer and celebrate if we happen to squeak into the NIT.

 

[Eielson]

i haven't seen one poster say the on the court product is fine

Yeah, nobody on here is saying that last year was fine. In fact, just about everybody on here has said that last year wasn't fine. Apparently if you don't want to fire a coach and burn the program down after one lousy year, you think everything is fine. At least that's how it works in the mind of somebody who suffers from borderline personality disorder.

 

[WTSooner]

There are lots of exceptions? We have only had a couple of years of NIL. Do you really think it is going to be common for small schools with little NIL to make it to the final four every year?

They don't have to make the FF for my point to be valid.

I'm just talking about fielding a top 30 team that makes the Dance.

It is idiotic to think OU doesn't enough NIL, facilities, and fan support to do that. Just crazy.

And if NIL hasn't been around long enough to keep teams like SDS and Florida Atlantic from the FF, it hasn't been around long enough to cause the OU program to tank even if it's correct that our NIL, etc isn't up to snuff.

 

[WTSooner]

If we have zero chance to compete then why even field a team?

Exactly. Scrap the basketball program and use those funds for football and softball.