MBB TPT2 TRANSFER PORTAL THREAD 2

[CoachTalk]

You can have a 4 guard lineup. A lot of teams across the country have that. However idk if any of these guards are tough enough or rebounds well enough to fill that 4 spot.

Toughness is what Kooper and Otega and Darthard bring.

 

[CoachTalk]

So is the roster set?

If the season starts today:

PG: Javian McCollum/Uzan
SG: Milos Uzan/Darthard
SG: Rivaldo Soares/Kaden Cooper
SF: Otega Oweh/Yaya/Godwin
PF: John Hugley/Godwin/Northweather

Something like that?

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Are obsolete these days. Has been for years.

It’s who you can guard and who handles the ball.

 

[thebigabd]

more like

Uzan
McCollum
Oweh
Soares
Hugley

with Darthard and Cooper the first 2 off the bench

and Godwin / Northweather as the back up bigs ..

Ok, my bad... I still had the right combo of players.. Uzan, McCollum, Oweh, Soares, and Ugley are the likely starters.

 

[Seymore Cox]

Toughness is what Kooper and Otega and Darthard bring.

Not Cooper. Maybe Oweh.

 

[allday92]

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Are obsolete these days. Has been for years.

It’s who you can guard and who handles the ball.

Agreed. I haven't seen much of Hugely on defense, but I'm more worried OU doesn't have a rim protector. It may not matter as much, as the team is way more athletic on the perimeter, but I'd rather have a rim protector than a true "PF."

 

[CoachTalk]

Not Cooper. Maybe Oweh.

Lol.

You’re saying cooper doesn’t bring toughness?

 

[skyvue]

If Hill had stayed he’d be our starter at the four and we know he can play there. But, we also know he was not a true four and that he was overpowered by bigger, stronger fours at times.

It would be nice if we can sign a legitimate starting four before the season starts. If not, we’ll go with an undersized three, just as we would do if Jalen was still here.

I'd take Hill, with his toughness, defense, leadership and four years of Big 12 experience, over any of the newcomers, none of whom are from power conferences, who might be used to replace him.

And we were assured by some here that replacing Hill would be a snap, that he was no loss whatsoever. With our current roster (I've not given up on a new addition), I don't think there's anyone who's a legit replacement for what Hill brought.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I'd take Hill, with his toughness, defense, leadership and four years of Big 12 experience, over any of the newcomers, none of whom are from power conferences, who might be used to replace him.

And we were assured by some here that replacing Hill would be a snap, that he was no loss whatsoever. With our current roster (I've not given up on a new addition), I don't think there's anyone who's a legit replacement for what Hill brought.

We also were told that Soares was not signed to play the four, that he is a guard who was signed to bring depth in the backcourt. Now we are being told he will, in fact, play some there.

As for a four-guard lineup, sure, some teams do that. But it is clear that wasn’t Moser’s plan. He specifically tried to recruit multiple guys to be our starting four. So if we end up staring four guards, it is by default, because he couldn’t seal the deal on a four.

 

[Eielson]

Not Cooper. Maybe Oweh.

You've scouted his HS or AAU so thoroughly that you feel qualified to comment on his toughness?

 

[MFDChief]

I watched a video of Luke playing Tulsa Union his senior year and he played pretty well. I think his line score ended up being 29-9-1 and he looked very athletic for a man his size. I think he shot 39% from three his senior year also. Hopefully he surprises us and becomes that serviceable 4/5 that we need. I just think it’s silly to write him off until we see him play. *

 

[CoachTalk]

You've scouted his HS or AAU so thoroughly that you feel qualified to comment on his toughness?

I do. Knew him from his Ada days back to Jh.
Know his coaches from Ada hs.
Coached against him.
Know his AAU coach.
Trust a source good enough from his skills factory days.
Throw in the extra year of a national basketball factory.


Yeah I’m qualified to comment.

 

[WTSooner]

We also were told.....

We get "told" a lot of things around here by some know-it-alls that are really doing nothing more than guessing most of the time.

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

We get "told" a lot of things around here by some know-it-alls that are really doing nothing more than guessing most of the time.

This whole thread is full of know-it-alls. Most of them talk like they know basketball from more than a casual fan perspective when they really don't know basketball much at all...... and it shows.


As far as people "guessing" that is the nature of recruiting....it is all guessing unless someone actually has an inside track or connection and there are a couple of people on here that are plugged in. Some of you guys still argue with them like you actually know what is going on.

 

[WTSooner]

This whole thread is full of know-it-alls. Most of them talk like they know basketball from more than a casual fan perspective when they really don't know basketball much at all...... and it shows.


As far as people "guessing" that is the nature of recruiting....it is all guessing unless someone actually has an inside track or connection and there are a couple of people on here that are plugged in. Some of you guys still argue with them like you actually know what is going on.

There you go preaching to us again like your "coaching" experience means you know more than the rest of us. Didn't you literally tell us a week or two ago that you don't do that?

Being "plugged in" doesn't give those guys the ability to know all things. Know that a recruit is on campus a short time before the rest of us? Sure. Know the name of a guy our staff has reached out to a short time before the rest of us? Sure. Have some great insight into the program or the players, or how the players are doing, growing, reacting, etc? No, more often then not. I've busted one of our "insiders" multiple times for giving HIS opinion on something and claiming it to be inside information or something more than it was.

 

[TINY]

I'd take Hill, with his toughness, defense, leadership and four years of Big 12 experience, over any of the newcomers, none of whom are from power conferences, who might be used to replace him.

And we were assured by some here that replacing Hill would be a snap, that he was no loss whatsoever. With our current roster (I've not given up on a new addition), I don't think there's anyone who's a legit replacement for what Hill brought.

Oregon and pitt aren’t power 5? I didn’t see anyone guarantee that OU would get a better replacement for hill. The point was made that there are/were plenty of options better than him in the portal, though. There is still time to land 1 of them, also.

 

[WichitaSooner]

There you go preaching to us again like your "coaching" experience means you know more than the rest of us. Didn't you literally tell us a week or two ago that you don't do that?

Being "plugged in" doesn't give those guys the ability to know all things. Know that a recruit is on campus a short time before the rest of us? Sure. Know the name of a guy our staff has reached out to a short time before the rest of us? Sure. Have some great insight into the program or the players, or how the players are doing, growing, reacting, etc? No, more often then not. I've busted one of our "insiders" multiple times for giving HIS opinion on something and claiming it to be inside information or something more than it was.

I think coaching experience cuts both ways. Maybe those guys have a little more Xs and Os knowledge than most fans, but it also seems like because they coach or used to coach, they are utterly incapable of accepting any criticism of Moser. It's like they fear they will get their coaching card revoked if they make even a slightly negative comment about a coach. And I do think there is a massive difference between coaching lower levels and coaching at a major D-1 school.

I don't mind when people share any insight they have on who we are recruiting. What gets frustrating is how often people will walk things back when one of the guys we are supposedly a legit contender for chooses another school. "Well, we were never really the leader for him." "Don't worry, there are still plenty of guys out there." "We can always go small." "We can't expect to compete with NIL programs at other schools." "Cal just hired a coach who sat on an NBA bench two decades ago."

There are still guys out there, I realize. And plenty of schools, like KU and KSU, still have holes they need to fill. But it's all but sure that they will end up signing really good players for those spots. Can anyone objectively say the same for us? And if we don't find, at a minimum, a good four, how can we have much hope the win/loss record will be much better next season? We were so far behind most of our league coming into this offseason that we can't just do okay in the portal. We have to kill it.

 

[Seymore Cox]

Lol.

You’re saying cooper doesn’t bring toughness?

Not off the bat as a freshman.

 

[Seymore Cox]

You've scouted his HS or AAU so thoroughly that you feel qualified to comment on his toughness?

Yes.

 

[Seymore Cox]

You've scouted his HS or AAU so thoroughly that you feel qualified to comment on his toughness?

Yes.


He doesn’t like the paint. Plays too much outside the 3 point line for a guy who’s nearly 6 foot 7.

 

[skyvue]

Oregon and pitt aren’t power 5? I didn’t see anyone guarantee that OU would get a better replacement for hill. The point was made that there are/were plenty of options better than him in the portal, though. There is still time to land 1 of them, also.

Fair enough--my memory failed me. But I don't see Soares as a major addition (I know some might disagree); his stats are worse than Hill's. And while there may be time to land someone better than Hill, is there even a hint that we're in on--much less a favorite for--such a player?

And several posters dismissed the loss of Hill as no big deal, even a good thing. That implies that we should have no trouble replacing him, improving upon him, does it not? That hasn't proven to be the case so far.

As for going small, which some have fallen back on, it's nice to have that option in certain situations; it's not so nice to have no choice but to go with four guards.