Regional recruiting ties dont matter, you say?

[thebigabd]

The last great OU team (built by Sampson, who had a decade of time in this area):

Blake Griffin- Oklahoma
Taylor Griffin- Oklahoma
Austin Johnson- Texas
Willie Warren- Texas
Tony Crocker- Oklahoma
Cade Davis- Oklahoma
Omar Leary- Colorado

The really good OU team before that, also built by Kelvin Sampson:

Terrell Everett- Missouri
Kevin Bookout- Oklahoma
David Godbold- Oklahoma
Taj Gray- Kansas
Jaison Williams- Colorado
Drew Lavender (Ohio): Transferred
Lawrence Mckenzie (Minnesota): Transferred
Brandon Foust (Ohio): Transferred

And before that:

Quannas White- Texas
Hollis Price- Louisiana
Ebi Ere- Oklahoma
Jason Detrick- Missouri
Daryan Selvy- Oklahoma
Aaron Mcghee- Illinois

This years team:
Andrew Fitz- Maryland
Steve Pledger- Virginia
Nick Thompson- Utah
Calvin Newell- Philly
Carl Blair- Texas
Cameron Clark- Texas
Cade Davis- Oklahoma
Tyler Neal- Oklahoma
CJ Washington- Oklahoma

So, the only guys from Oklahoma and Texas are mid-majors with the exception of Cameron Clark. In the past, most of OU's better players are from this part of the country.

You NEED the best players from the area to win. OU has proven time and again that it does not recruit nationally very well. All of OU's highly successful players are from the area. Wayman, Blake, Adams, Minor, etc.

We need someone who can recruit the heck out of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, and Louisiana.

 

[MichSooner]

The last great OU team (built by Sampson, who had a decade of time in this area):

Blake Griffin- Oklahoma
Taylor Griffin- Oklahoma
Austin Johnson- Texas
Willie Warren- Texas
Tony Crocker- Oklahoma
Cade Davis- Oklahoma
Omar Leary- Colorado

The really good OU team before that, also built by Kelvin Sampson:

Terrell Everett- Missouri
Kevin Bookout- Oklahoma
David Godbold- Oklahoma
Taj Gray- Kansas
Jaison Williams- Colorado
Drew Lavender (Ohio): Transferred
Lawrence Mckenzie (Minnesota): Transferred
Brandon Foust (Ohio): Transferred

And before that:

Quannas White- Texas
Hollis Price- Louisiana
Ebi Ere- Oklahoma
Jason Detrick- Missouri
Daryan Selvy- Oklahoma
Aaron Mcghee- Illinois

This years team:
Andrew Fitz- Maryland
Steve Pledger- Virginia
Nick Thompson- Utah
Calvin Newell- Philly
Carl Blair- Texas
Cameron Clark- Texas
Cade Davis- Oklahoma
Tyler Neal- Oklahoma
CJ Washington- Oklahoma

So, the only guys from Oklahoma and Texas are mid-majors with the exception of Cameron Clark. In the past, most of OU's better players are from this part of the country.

You NEED the best players from the area to win. OU has proven time and again that it does not recruit nationally very well. All of OU's highly successful players are from the area. Wayman, Blake, Adams, Minor, etc.

We need someone who can recruit the heck out of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, and Louisiana.

The only real difference you may have with some of us is that you are inferring that only a coach with current regional ties can recruit this area. I, for one, do not believe that to be the case. Getting good if not great p0layers from this area is important.

 

[ouscotty]

Blake Griffin didn't play for Sampson, correct? I read an article that said he would not go to OU if Sampson stayed and Taylor might not have stayed.

 

[Tony]

Here we go again...

 

[campbest]

Regional ties are important, especially for a program like OU which doesn't have the national prestige (whether warranted or not, just stating the perception).

 

[38Special]

Kelvin came here from Washington State. He had no recruiting ties to this area. He won immediately, and recruited the area immediately. Recruiting this area is important. A good coach will get that done, no matter where he's coming from. Nobody is disputing the fact that recruiting this area is important.

 

[JBaker]

The last great OU team (built by Sampson, who had a decade of time in this area):

Blake Griffin- Oklahoma
Taylor Griffin- Oklahoma
Austin Johnson- Texas
Willie Warren- Texas
Tony Crocker- Oklahoma
Cade Davis- Oklahoma
Omar Leary- Colorado

Taylor Griffin and Austin Johnson are the only two guys on that list that played for Sampson.

 

[Sawyer]

Terrell Everett- Missouri
Jason Detrick- Missouri

Neither were from Missouri. They did play for a junior college in Missouri, but that's hardly the same thing. Both were east coast guys originally. Being a midwestern guy doesn't help recruit east coast guys making a two-year stop at a juco somewhere IMO.

 

[coolm]

OMG give it a rest

 

[Soonerborn03]

Taylor Griffin and Austin Johnson are the only two guys on that list that played for Sampson.

That is true, but Tony was recruited by Sampson and was the lone holdover of the class to stay with Capel. So, I guess Sampson coached two players of that group and brought in a third.

 

[thebigabd]

Neither were from Missouri. They did play for a junior college in Missouri, but that's hardly the same thing. Both were east coast guys originally. Being a midwestern guy doesn't help recruit east coast guys making a two-year stop at a juco somewhere IMO.

Being in Missouri opens them up to being recruited by schools in the area. If they played for junior colleges in North Carolina or Florida they may not have ended up at OU.

 

[BoulderSooner]

this could be your worst thread yet ..

 

[Sawyer]

Being in Missouri opens them up to being recruited by schools in the area. If they played for junior colleges in North Carolina or Florida they may not have ended up at OU.

You're really reaching...

Obviously it's important for a school like Oklahoma (or Missouri, or any school in Texas, or ksu, or Iowa State, or anyone who isn't elite) to land the best players in their region. But it doesn't HAVE to be a guy from there to be able to get that job done. It simply takes a guy who makes it a priority.

 

[boksooner]

This years team:
Andrew Fitz- Maryland
Steve Pledger- Virginia
Nick Thompson- Utah
Calvin Newell- Philly
Carl Blair- Texas
Cameron Clark- Texas
Cade Davis- Oklahoma
Tyler Neal- Oklahoma
CJ Washington- Oklahoma

So, the only guys from Oklahoma and Texas are mid-majors with the exception of Cameron Clark. In the past, most of OU's better players are from this part of the country.

Good job taking a final crack at Cade

 

[Dem Coltz]

Has abd ever started a thread with a title that wasn't a sarcastic question? Even though he's never really asking anyone for the answer, because he's sure he already knows it.

 

[NotsoyoungJeezy]

You dont have to be from here to recruit here....A recruit is not going to sign with a school because the coach is "from this area". A teenage kid couldnt give a rats azz where the coach is from.

 

[NickZepp]

You dont have to be from here to recruit here....A recruit is not going to sign with a school because the coach is "from this area". A teenage kid couldnt give a rats azz where the coach is from.

I don't know if it matters if he is from here or not. Kelvin wasn't from here but he recruited this part of the country fairly well. Capel had trouble recruiting this area.

 

[SoonerinNC]

Of course it helps.

It just should not be one of the top criteria for choosing a coach. Why limit yourself to an area.

The right coach will establish recruiting ties quickly and they can always hire assistants who have connections to the area.

 

[UHsurfer12]

I didn't think Tony was from Oklahoma... but I could be wrong

 

[Sawyer]

You dont have to be from here to recruit here....A recruit is not going to sign with a school because the coach is "from this area". A teenage kid couldnt give a rats azz where the coach is from.

This, although I'd qualify it by saying it is important that a coach knows how to relate to kids from an area.

Differences aren't universal, but the average midwestern teenager is going to be a bit different than the average kid from one of the major urban areas on the east coast.