Sooners are headed for worst home attendance in the Lon Kruger era

[coolm]

we sell more than 8k tickets for most of the games

OU has to STOP the practice of points or preferences or clubs or whatever they use to sell those 8k tickets and instead focus on students and others who will actually attend the games.

They are emphasizing the money and what they need to be emphasizing is the attendance. It should be the goal of every student on campus to make that place so loud that you can't hear yourself think. THAT brings better recruits and THAT brings more success.

Focusing on the money is intelligent and I wont bash the philosophy - but I think with a stable base of the football team we can dare take a different approach.

 

[tycat947]

we sell more than 8k tickets for most of the games

if you want an 8k building you would have a half empty 8k building ... those that buy tickets and don't show up now .. will still buy tickets and not show up then ..


the lnc is a great place to watch a basketball game there is not a bad seat (sightlines) in the building ...

with the upcoming renovation it will be an even better facility ..



go sit in the upper deck of GIA and tell me it is a good place to watch a game ... it is not it is horrible ..

+1

 

[BoulderSooner]

OU has to STOP the practice of points or preferences or clubs or whatever they use to sell those 8k tickets and instead focus on students and others who will actually attend the games.

They are emphasizing the money and what they need to be emphasizing is the attendance. It should be the goal of every student on campus to make that place so loud that you can't hear yourself think. THAT brings better recruits and THAT brings more success.

Focusing on the money is intelligent and I wont bash the philosophy - but I think with a stable base of the football team we can dare take a different approach.

it doesn't have anything to do with football ... buying basketball tickets gives you 1 extra donor point ..

it has to do with people wanting to have tickets to the "big" games ...

 

[coolm]

it doesn't have anything to do with football ... buying basketball tickets gives you 1 extra donor point ..

it has to do with people wanting to have tickets to the "big" games ...

whatever it has to do with needs to be changed. if we know the carrot that will entice them then we need to steer the stick in the desired direction.

tie tickets to attendance counted by actual attendance vice monetary sale.

 

[Soonerinkc]

Much. St is under .500? Sounds like fake news.

I could have sworn at the time they were....maybe not..:facepalm

like 11-13..maybe conf..they def weren't much over 500 if at all

 

[BigTime]

Step 1 - Renovate the LNC (reduce seating and add some sort of box/club level option)

Step 2 - Due to above renovation, redo all seating assignments with an emphasis of putting those who sit in the lower level and who have had a butt in the seats over the past 5 years being put on the side that the camera faces (perception is reality)

Step 3 - Win

:lon

 

[coolm]

bigtime - I see your plan but that only accepts what we are doing now and doesn't try to steer it to a better place. your plan relies on just capitulating to the status quo. I think you have to move the games to the center of campus and promote crucially to students and recent attendees (the people with the most interest being on campus). You need a house full of rowdy 20 somethings with the focus being the home court atmosphere. Thats the snowball we need ... yours is just a slow snow.

 

[gwydion]

Putting an arena on campus isn't going to get students there. Most students live off campus. There are at least 4 student living complexes right around LNC. Why don't those students come? Where are we going to park for this on campus facility? If the people don't come now, how many are going to come if they have to park many blocks away on cold, maybe rainy nights in December, January and February when it's dark by 6 pm?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Get rid of the orange....and the fans will come

 

[Big Old Booger]

Get rid of the orange....and the fans will come

I knew it was a matter of time before someone would say this ^. :facepalm

It's obvious you have never been inside the LNC, which should be a prerequisite to post here if you are an alum (which I'm assuming you are though it does devalue my degree if you were :ez-roll: ).

 

[tycat947]

I knew it was a matter of time before someone would say this ^. :facepalm

It's obvious you have never been inside the LNC, which should be a prerequisite to post here if you are an alum (which I'm assuming you are though it does devalue my degree if you were :ez-roll: ).

+1

 

[Sooner04]

I used to have all sorts of theories about this, but last year disproved them. If you win big, the fans will come. Top 20 support will be mediocre, but they'll be there for a top 10 Sooner team.

And I've been attending OU games since I was in utero, and never once have I thought those seats are orange. We've got some odd ducks congregating around here.

There are three plans in place for the new arena.

1. Gut the LNC and re-configure the seating.
2. Brand new arena just south of the current LNC.
3. Brand new arena on the field house site.

Getting this done is in Phase 3 of the grand fundraising plan that began with the new south endzone. Phase 2 of that will be the west side upper deck at Owen Field. Then, and only then, will Phase 3 be initiated. They don't have the funds in place for Phase 2, so it will be a while. Get oil back up to 75-80 dollars a barrel and the show will be moving post haste.

 

[Big Old Booger]

I used to have all sorts of theories about this, but last year disproved them. If you win big, the fans will come. Top 20 support will be mediocre, but they'll be there for a top 10 Sooner team.

And I've been attending OU games since I was in utero, and never once have I thought those seats are orange. We've got some odd ducks congregating around here.

There are three plans in place for the new arena.

1. Gut the LNC and re-configure the seating.
2. Brand new arena just south of the current LNC.
3. Brand new arena on the field house site.

Getting this done is in Phase 3 of the grand fundraising plan that began with the new south endzone. Phase 2 of that will be the west side upper deck at Owen Field. Then, and only then, will Phase 3 be initiated. They don't have the funds in place for Phase 2, so it will be a while. Get oil back up to 75-80 dollars a barrel and the show will be moving post haste.

Option 3 really makes no sense with all the money that's been invested in the practice facilities and such on the south end of the LNC. IMO, 1 or 2 are the only feasible options and really 1 is the best option. The question, when they get there is can it be gutted and complete by the time the season starts? That's a lot of work I would think.

And, the seats may look orange in pictures and I'm sure someone will post a picture but if you have ever been in the LNC they are clearly RED and have been since the day the LNC opened. They aren't crimson, that is something we can all agree upon.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Option 3 really makes no sense with all the money that's been invested in the practice facilities and such on the south end of the LNC. IMO, 1 or 2 are the only feasible options and really 1 is the best option. The question, when they get there is can it be gutted and complete by the time the season starts? That's a lot of work I would think.

And, the seats may look orange in pictures and I'm sure someone will post a picture but if you have ever been in the LNC they are clearly RED and have been since the day the LNC opened. They aren't crimson, that is something we can all agree upon.

they are not clearly red. The lower donor seats are clearly red. The other seats are clearly orange. Do I need to go get some color swatches and compare?

 

[Big Old Booger]

they are not clearly red. The lower donor seats are clearly red. The other seats are clearly orange. Do I need to go get some color swatches and compare?

Actually go to a game and take your picture with both a red fabric and an orange fabric beside the chair, then post it here. Until you do that anything else you say about it is moot.

Do you know where the LNC is located? I can provide GPS coordinates if needed. :dance005: :ez-roll: :ez-laugh:

 

[SoonerBounce13]

 

[SoonerBounce13]

 

[SoonerBounce13]

when your in state rival uses the color orange, it may be best to make sure your seats are not orange....or close enough to appear orange to some people. They definetly are not crimson. we can all agree on that

 

[Big Old Booger]

when your in state rival uses the color orange, it may be best to make sure your seats are not orange....or close enough to appear orange to some people. They definetly are not crimson. we can all agree on that

When the LNC was built the University -- like all other universities -- had no standards on logo or colors. Yes, OU's colors have always been crimson/cream but to those of us alive in the 70's/80's/90's we remember OU gear that was bright red -- the same red as those seats. We also remember the old slanted OU block logo, which was horrendous BTW.

Joe Castiglione is the first OU AD to set standards and create an official logo and who drove the effort to make all OU gear crimson. Now the problem is Nike has a different official crimson for OU than does Adidas/Under Armour/etc. because it's a proprietary Nike color (it may be proprietary to OU). Regardless, if OU switches apparel companies you will most likely see the new stuff be a shade different if the color is owned by Nike (for that reason I think it's owned by OU).

 

[gwydion]

If you have ever ordered something on line and then was disappointed in the color when it arrived, then you know that lighting can vastly effect images. Computer screens also vary in the way they show color. Perception of a color is different by individual. Two people can be standing in front of the same object and perceive it differently. If you are convinced the seats are orange then I'm sure they look that way to you. Plus if you have ever been inside Gallagher-Iba and Lloyd Noble, you know the two colors of seating aren't even close. Are the LNC seats a true red? No, they have faded and next to the burgundy seats look even worse. The padded seats actually lean towards the purple spectrum as there is a lot of blue in them.