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[realdallassooner]

I wouldn't mind the slow pace of the process if other schools weren't firing and hiring coaches in the interim. How is it Mizzou can lose a good coach and hire another in shorter time than our search is taking?

I'm really not that worried about hiring someone "fast" that really doesn't matter. Unless someone is getting hired that is on your short list of candidates it really doesn't matter.

This weekend in Houston at the Final Four will be the biggest gathering of college coaches and assistants; I'm sure Joe C. will have a hotel conference room reserved somewhere and be talking to some more people. I don't mind waiting another week to get the right guy.

 

[skyvue]

I'm really not that worried about hiring someone "fast" that really doesn't matter. Unless someone is getting hired that is on your short list of candidates it really doesn't matter.

That's the point -- good coaches are coming off the board virtually every day, and none are being added.

 

[chewy75]

What names being thrown around are NOT in the mix IYPO?

none that I know of it is still pretty tight lipped.

 

[Mr.B!!!]

Thanks again!

For whatever reason, I do not believe that this search is as screwed up as other people seem to think that it is. It is just as tight-lipped as it was when Kelvin left, except at the time Castiglione had no time to plan or evaluate becuase it wasn't OU pushing him out the door. You don't fire a coach without having an idea of who you want to have replace him or an idea of what your process was going to be.

I think Joe has said at one point when asked [not sure which coaching position though] that he is constantly attuned to the landscape and keeps a short-list of potential candidates for vacancies. I think that one of two things is likely: (a) the rubber is about to hit the road on Buzz [i.e. will OU come up with the buy-out]; or (b) he has his eyes set on an HC or AC that is still playing.

I see little relevance with what is happening at other places like Mizzou or Arkansas as it pertains to what OU and Joe Castiglione have done in their search...other than causing frustration with posters here who want to know who the heck the new coach will be.

 

[Section31]

If the previously reported blurb is correct, then the pace MIGHT make sense in regards to Buzz.

From March 25th.

FWIW.....

As far as Williams, Tulsa World columnist Dave Sittler reported that, contrary to reports, Williams, 38, doesn’t have a $3.8 million buyout clause in his contract.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that Williams has a six-year rollover contract that pays him about $1.5 million annually.

The source confirmed that Williams’ buyout was in the seven-figure range, but added that it “goes down in two weeks.”

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/03/25/source-williams-would-consider-texas-if-barnes-leaves/

 

[Big Old Booger]

Thanks again!

For whatever reason, I do not believe that this search is as screwed up as other people seem to think that it is. It is just as tight-lipped as it was when Kelvin left, except at the time Castiglione had no time to plan or evaluate becuase it wasn't OU pushing him out the door. You don't fire a coach without having an idea of who you want to have replace him or an idea of what your process was going to be.

I think Joe has said at one point when asked [not sure which coaching position though] that he is constantly attuned to the landscape and keeps a short-list of potential candidates for vacancies. I think that one of two things is likely: (a) the rubber is about to hit the road on Buzz [i.e. will OU come up with the buy-out]; or (b) he has his eyes set on an HC or AC that is still playing.

I see little relevance with what is happening at other places like Mizzou or Arkansas as it pertains to what OU and Joe Castiglione have done in their search...other than causing frustration with posters here who want to know who the heck the new coach will be.

Maybe so. A poster on rivals, who is supposedly close to Pastner posted some info today about how Pastner was contacted.

From what he posted, it sounded like Joe is not going to cow-tow to anybody and is only wanting someone who wants to do the job his (Joe's) way and cannot stray from that. This is why somebody like Bruce Pearl would never be considered.

It also sounds, from the posters info, that Joe has made some mistakes in how he's doing the search.

I have never been a big Pastner fan, so I'm glad he was put off by some of the ways our admin handed him and the contact with him, though.

 

[Big Old Booger]

If the previously reported blurb is correct, then the pace MIGHT make sense in regards to Buzz.

From March 25th.

That's a good point, but chewy said Williams is out of it due to his contract.

chewy -- can you confirm if Williams is definitely out?

Also, if buzz signs his new contract with UM then we know he's out. If he does not then maybe your post is spot-on.

 

[Section31]

That's a good point, but chewy said Williams is out of it due to his contract.

chewy -- can you confirm if Williams is definitely out?

Also, if buzz signs his new contract with UM then we know he's out. If he does not then maybe your post is spot-on.

He said "doubtful", but also said it's "tight lipped". Sounds like something might be going on and MAYBE this is the deal. Legally, I think it would be bad for business if Buzz has told OU this and they are waiting on it, so MAYBE that's why it's being thrown around that he's out.

 

[Big Old Booger]

He said "doubtful", but also said it's "tight lipped". Sounds like something might be going on and MAYBE this is the deal. Legally, I think it would be bad for business if Buzz has told OU this and they are waiting on it, so MAYBE that's why it's being thrown around that he's out.

If you are right, then tomorrow will be a long day depending on what time he signs the new contract at UM or if he even signs it.

 

[scrybe]

Thanks again!

For whatever reason, I do not believe that this search is as screwed up as other people seem to think that it is. It is just as tight-lipped as it was when Kelvin left, except at the time Castiglione had no time to plan or evaluate becuase it wasn't OU pushing him out the door. You don't fire a coach without having an idea of who you want to have replace him or an idea of what your process was going to be.

I think Joe has said at one point when asked [not sure which coaching position though] that he is constantly attuned to the landscape and keeps a short-list of potential candidates for vacancies. I think that one of two things is likely: (a) the rubber is about to hit the road on Buzz [i.e. will OU come up with the buy-out]; or (b) he has his eyes set on an HC or AC that is still playing.

I see little relevance with what is happening at other places like Mizzou or Arkansas as it pertains to what OU and Joe Castiglione have done in their search...other than causing frustration with posters here who want to know who the heck the new coach will be.

This.

Oh, and Booger: chewy never said Buzz was definitely out of the picture regarding OU's coaching search. I believe he used the term "doubtful" in describing OU's chances of landing Buzz.

(Oops, sorry Klegg. I guess I was a little late on the draw).

 

[Oliver Hardy]

Look, I am elated Brad Stevens is on the list. At least Joe is thinking really big and dramatic.

I bet we'd have to pay less for him than Willaims because of the buyout difference. That would let us put more toward his salary.

I'd say go for it. What have we got to lose -- everyone is telling us no anyway. What's one more?

 

[Section31]

If you are right, then tomorrow will be a long day depending on what time he signs the new contract at UM or if he even signs it.

I hear ya...I feel like I'm an FBI agent trying to put all the pieces together. I'm sure it will be NOTHING like what I guessed it would be...but it IS fun to speculate...

 

[Section31]

Look, I am elated Brad Stevens is on the list. At least Joe is thinking really big and dramatic.

I bet we'd have to pay less for him than Willaims because of the buyout difference. That would let us put more toward his salary.

I'd say go for it. What have we got to lose -- everyone is telling us no anyway. What's one more?

Very good point.

If we have to pay Buzz 2 million, plus a 2 million dollar buyout, that's 400K a year you could extrapolate out over 5 years. That would allow us to offer 5 yrs at 2.4 million. Hmmmm....

ON EDIT: I'm sure Stevens has a substantial buyout, so scratch this...

 

[jbopitz]

Dave Sittler said our new coach will be the Wichita State Coach.

 

[WTSooner]

I don't buy the taking our time to get it right story.

Unless we're wanting to talk to a coach that is still coaching, it's taking so long b/c we aren't having any luck. Either identifiying canidates, or getting canidates to be interested in our job. There aren't THAT many possibilities to begin with. The longer it goes, the farther down our list we have gotten. IMO, anyways.

 

[seniorsooner]

Dave Sittler said our new coach will be the Wichita State Coach.

And he also said he had no sources whatsoever to back it up, it was just a flat out guess.

 

[soonermcd93]

Why doesn't everybody fall over themselves to thank me when I post? My question from Chewy's post is why is Brad Stevens even on a list if it is automatic that it won't happen? Is that his personal choice or has it been explored?

 

[chewy75]

That's a good point, but chewy said Williams is out of it due to his contract.

chewy -- can you confirm if Williams is definitely out?

Also, if buzz signs his new contract with UM then we know he's out. If he does not then maybe your post is spot-on.

no but I would say he is real close to being out

 

[chewy75]

Why doesn't everybody fall over themselves to thank me when I post? My question from Chewy's post is why is Brad Stevens even on a list if it is automatic that it won't happen? Is that his personal choice or has it been explored?

// IF they could get anyone they wanted then Stevens would be our coach but it is just not going to happen

 

[afaSooner]

... then I don't clearly understand the timing of Capel's firing. It seems like a bad business move to not have something to 'upgrade to' before attempting to upgrade.

Maybe it's just as I suggested in another post, Capel was never going to get it turned around because there were too many negative things that other coaches were using against him in recruiting but that seems like a pretty daring move to go ahead and ax him vs letting it play out one more year. I won't beat that dead horse anymore but... damn.

:facepalm