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Hartman would be really good. Besides in game. He is the best guy on staff.

Will be a fine head coach soon.

Maybe at UTRGV.

I'm not sold. I really doubt 10 years from now any of us are saying "man, I really wish we had kept Hartman as our HC when we had the chance."

Whatever we've been doing as a program the past 5 years hasn't been working. And guess how long Hartman has been at OU? I'm certainly not BLAMING Hartman, but you don't hire an assistant coach from your program that just floundered the past 5 years. Bad move all around.
 
Funny you put bob on there. I spoke to him today. Ou isn’t calling him!!


Carlin Hartman is way more qualified than quannas.

And that doesn't mean anything.

Lon is more "qualified" than all but a handful of coaches. What did that get us? A 38-51 Big 12 record over the last 5 seasons. "Qualified" isn't the end all be all. Potential means something. Fit means something. Upside means something.
 
Quannas is a high risk, high upside pick imo

Exactly. In some ways, like Capel without the Duke pedigree. You hire Q because you think he can replicate what Kelvin did at OU and is doing at UH. Both in terms of X's and O's, and just culture, system, etc.
 
I don't understand this.... Either the guy is a good fit or he isn't. I don't need to see how well someone did at Dayton (Archie Miller), North Texas (Grant), etc...

Juwan Howard is the prototype.


Quannas has been coaching basketball for like 16 years.... nobody made Juwan Howard go coach at a directional school and he has a 1 seed team.

Exactly. Some say Howard coached "under" really good coaches. So has Quannas. Kelvin is a dang good coach, and Q has served "under him" for a number of years as player and coach.
 
Exactly. In some ways, like Capel without the Duke pedigree. You hire Q because you think he can replicate what Kelvin did at OU and is doing at UH. Both in terms of X's and O's, and just culture, system, etc.

Yep just as easy as all the Duke assistants did after being with Coach K for so long....

Some of you guys make it sound like just because you are an assistant for so and so that you can do exactly what they were doing or have done. There’s a reason why coaching is so hard and many fail.

Quannas White has NO name to anyone outside of those walls. He’s going to come to OU (a place you guys and most deem a top 25 program historically) and just start tearing things up with all the 5 start guys he’s going to bring in?

As some have pointed out, Capel was that guy as well that was going to come in guns a blazing with all the big name recruits and light the world on fire. It’s a lot different when you aren’t actually recruiting for the guy with the big name and recruiting for your own no name at the time. Trying to get kids to envision and buy-in is way different than having it already built to recruit to.

Where are all these magical ponies that he’s going to recruit? Not to mention, if Q did come to OU and was recruiting kids out of Texas, he’ll now be recruiting against that same mentor that taught him everything. Kids are just going to now come to OU over Houston because he’s young and energetic? Like 75% of all the other coaches in basketball....

I’m not saying that he couldn’t make it, but it’s a LOT harder than some of you make it sound like it would be. Recruiting is a dirty, fierce game and when you don’t have a name or anything to hang your hat on against what others have, it’s not that easy.

Learning on the side from someone that has been successful is a good start but in no way means that you are going to be able to replicate what they have done.

People keep talking about Michigan and the job Howard has done. People have failed to mention (to my knowledge) that his first call and top assistant is Phil Martelli (Over 400 wins as a DI coach). Howard had/has a name, Martelli has the brains. There is a big difference from where Howard came from to where Quannas would be coming from in my opinion.

As for what type of system Quannas would bring to OU, you made the comment that he basically would replicate what Sampson does, when people have tried to replicate what others have done it usually fails and fails miserably. It could be why all of the Duke assistants have failed. Trying to replicate what someone else has done hardly ever works especially when you don’t have the name to go with it.

Who knows if McCasland is the answer if he in fact is the guy but he HAS done it at smaller schools and not just one. He’s won every where he’s been which is what a ton of you have said about Beard. He looks very similar to what Beard was when he was hired at Tech that posters have claimed they want and yet some of those same posters want a guy that’s NEVER done it anywhere just because of who he coaches under. Doesn’t make much sense to me.
 
Exactly. Some say Howard coached "under" really good coaches. So has Quannas. Kelvin is a dang good coach, and Q has served "under him" for a number of years as player and coach.

Lol yea, being a second assistant under Kelvin is pretty much the same as being an assistant under a great nba coach plus one of the best to ever do it.
 
Lol anddddd checkmate

TU just extended Frank Haith, but TU is in a tough spot in the American. It's a really tough league. Tulsa finished first year before last, but its a grinder... Wichita State, SMU, Memphis, Houston, Cincy, etc. It's a very tough 1-2 bid league. Houston, Wichita State, SMU, etc are tough games for Big 12 teams. Let alone league opponents.

The glory days of TU basketball came from the Missouri Valley and the WAC... where TU could be top dog. Then TU started trying to upgrade its league, which Gonzaga never did, and TU has fallen behind. It's a tough job now because of the league they play in.

But Frank Haith would absolutely win at OU... there is no question.

30-5, 23-11, 23-12 at Missouri... He has half of Miami's 20 win seasons, and was one win off setting a school record for wins... He's got a 60% win percentage in the American. He's 25 games over .500 in his league... Lon Kruger is 1 game over .500 in his league.. He's been National Coach of the Year. He's was the 2020 American League coach of the year.. He was the Big 12 Coach of the Year... He was a finalist for ACC Coach of the Year at the worst program in that league.

Missouri, Miami, and Tulsa are NOT easy jobs... Miami is a total dump program. Missouri has been a total dump since Haith left.

We are over here talking about McCasland and other guys for their experience... Frank Haith is way more experienced and accomplished than those guys...

Yea he had some infractions... big deal, so did Sampson. Houston has a top 5 team. I doubt they care Sampson had some recruiting infractions.
 
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TU just extended Frank Haith, but TU is in a tough spot in the American. It's a really tough league. Tulsa finished first year before last, but its a grinder... Wichita State, SMU, Memphis, Houston, Cincy, etc. It's a very tough 1-2 bid league. Houston, Wichita State, SMU, etc are tough games for Big 12 teams. Let alone league opponents.

The glory days of TU basketball came from the Missouri Valley and the WAC... where TU could be top dog. Then TU started trying to upgrade its league, which Gonzaga never did, and TU has fallen behind. It's a tough job now because of the league they play in.

But Frank Haith would absolutely win at OU... there is no question.

30-5, 23-11, 23-12 at Missouri... He has half of Miami's 20 win seasons, and was one win off setting a school record for wins... He's got a 60% win percentage in the American. He's 25 games over .500 in his league... Lon Kruger is 1 game over .500 in his league.. He's been National Coach of the Year. He's was the 2020 American League coach of the year.. He was the Big 12 Coach of the Year... He was a finalist for ACC Coach of the Year at the worst program in that league.

Missouri, Miami, and Tulsa are NOT easy jobs... Miami is a total dump program. Missouri has been a total dump since Haith left.

We are over here talking about McCasland and other guys for their experience... Frank Haith is way more experienced and accomplished than those guys...

Yea he had some infractions... big deal, so did Sampson. Houston has a top 5 team. I doubt they care Sampson had some recruiting infractions.

The good thing is you have a loving wife to console you because the dogs will be roaming the streets shortly.
 
TU just extended Frank Haith, but TU is in a tough spot in the American. It's a really tough league. Tulsa finished first year before last, but its a grinder... Wichita State, SMU, Memphis, Houston, Cincy, etc. It's a very tough 1-2 bid league. Houston, Wichita State, SMU, etc are tough games for Big 12 teams. Let alone league opponents.

The glory days of TU basketball came from the Missouri Valley and the WAC... where TU could be top dog. Then TU started trying to upgrade its league, which Gonzaga never did, and TU has fallen behind. It's a tough job now because of the league they play in.

But Frank Haith would absolutely win at OU... there is no question.

30-5, 23-11, 23-12 at Missouri... He has half of Miami's 20 win seasons, and was one win off setting a school record for wins... He's got a 60% win percentage in the American. He's 25 games over .500 in his league... Lon Kruger is 1 game over .500 in his league.. He's been National Coach of the Year. He's was the 2020 American League coach of the year.. He was the Big 12 Coach of the Year... He was a finalist for ACC Coach of the Year at the worst program in that league.

Missouri, Miami, and Tulsa are NOT easy jobs... Miami is a total dump program. Missouri has been a total dump since Haith left.

We are over here talking about McCasland and other guys for their experience... Frank Haith is way more experienced and accomplished than those guys...

Yea he had some infractions... big deal, so did Sampson. Houston has a top 5 team. I doubt they care Sampson had some recruiting infractions.

He has sanctions from 2 schools and 1 tournament win to show for it
 
TU just extended Frank Haith, but TU is in a tough spot in the American. It's a really tough league. Tulsa finished first year before last, but its a grinder... Wichita State, SMU, Memphis, Houston, Cincy, etc. It's a very tough 1-2 bid league. Houston, Wichita State, SMU, etc are tough games for Big 12 teams. Let alone league opponents.

The glory days of TU basketball came from the Missouri Valley and the WAC... where TU could be top dog. Then TU started trying to upgrade its league, which Gonzaga never did, and TU has fallen behind. It's a tough job now because of the league they play in.

But Frank Haith would absolutely win at OU... there is no question.

30-5, 23-11, 23-12 at Missouri... He has half of Miami's 20 win seasons, and was one win off setting a school record for wins... He's got a 60% win percentage in the American. He's 25 games over .500 in his league... Lon Kruger is 1 game over .500 in his league.. He's been National Coach of the Year. He's was the 2020 American League coach of the year.. He was the Big 12 Coach of the Year... He was a finalist for ACC Coach of the Year at the worst program in that league.

Missouri, Miami, and Tulsa are NOT easy jobs... Miami is a total dump program. Missouri has been a total dump since Haith left.

We are over here talking about McCasland and other guys for their experience... Frank Haith is way more experienced and accomplished than those guys...

Yea he had some infractions... big deal, so did Sampson. Houston has a top 5 team. I doubt they care Sampson had some recruiting infractions.

Here’s a stat for you. Nine of Tulsa’s 15 players counting two walk on’s are in the transfer portal. I’ll wait for a reply
 
He has sanctions from 2 schools and 1 tournament win to show for it

I’d love a coach who hasn’t shown an ability to win consistently in an inferior league. Think of the sanctions as an added bonus. But he could load the staff up with Quannas and Kellen and then we would get all the elite recruits who would otherwise go to the blue bloods or G League.
 
I’d love a coach who hasn’t shown an ability to win consistently in an inferior league. Think of the sanctions as an added bonus. But he could load the staff up with Quannas and Kellen and then we would get all the elite recruits who would otherwise go to the blue bloods or G League.

If he wasn't being facetious, and i don't think he was, but Coach mentioned Kellen was contacted thus he might not be filling the role of an assistant.
 
Here’s a stat for you. Nine of Tulsa’s 15 players counting two walk on’s are in the transfer portal. I’ll wait for a reply

They will be ok. Some of those dudes are end of the bench, who are seniors who were supposed to graduate anyway, or, like you said, walk ons... Tulsa will be getting transfers as well. They already got Sam Griffin from UT-Arlington who is a 6'3'' guard who averages 13.3 ppg and is a 40% 3pt shooter on 154 attempts.

They will fill the spots with D1 transfers and juco transfers... If they can land the kid from Hutchinson and 1-2 other top targets, they will be in good shape.
 
They will be ok. Some of those dudes are end of the bench, who are seniors who were supposed to graduate anyway, or, like you said, walk ons... Tulsa will be getting transfers as well. They already got Sam Griffin from UT-Arlington who is a 6'3'' guard who averages 13.3 ppg and is a 40% 3pt shooter on 154 attempts.

They will fill the spots with D1 transfers and juco transfers... If they can land the kid from Hutchinson and 1-2 other top targets, they will be in good shape.

and two weeks ago you said relying on the transfer market is not a place you want to be. Jesus Christ man
 
and two weeks ago you said relying on the transfer market is not a place you want to be. Jesus Christ man

He also copped to having been entirely wrong about Haith; now he's back in the Haith saddle.

And he wonders why some former poster thought he was a bot.
 
If Beard leaves Tech, McCasland is probably a huge target for Tech.
 
If Beard leaves Tech, McCasland is probably a huge target for Tech.

If so, and OU also wanted him, I would hope we could beat out Tech. Even with Beard’s run lately, really no comparison between programs.
 
If so, and OU also wanted him, I would hope we could beat out Tech. Even with Beard’s run lately, really no comparison between programs.

I hope we don’t get into some kind of bidding war for him. He seems like a nice replacement but certainly not someone I would break the bank for.
 
If so, and OU also wanted him, I would hope we could beat out Tech. Even with Beard’s run lately, really no comparison between programs.

Beard hasn't really had a run at Tech. He had two very good seasons, but before and after, hasn't been anything special.
 
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