March Madness and Covid-19

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steverocks35 said:
Good morning.

I spent most of the day yesterday helping plan drive-up testing stations at the clinic in Tulsa and the hospital in Muskogee. The plan is to have them operational starting this weekend. You would think those would be simple to plan and implement. They are not. At this point we are expecting the hospitals to become Covid-19 facilities, and not much else. I feel for the nursing staff because they are basically going to be locked in isolation wards with incredibly infectious patients, and we ALREADY don't have PPE. You can't find an n-95 mask anywhere. You guys have probably already seen the nurses in New York using makeshift PPE made from garbage bags. That's about our starting point. We can't get testing in a timely manner. We have been sending out specimen to OSDH but they are completely overwhelmed, they can't keep up with the volume. We started sending to a private national lab, but the turnaround time has been an amazingly bad 7-8 days. The best case scenario would be to test them here. We have the instrumentation, but the reagent packs are ordered on a national basis and will be doled out according to need. Trust me when I tell you that we will be far down the list. Our policy so far has been to order a respiratory panel, a PCR test that screens for about 10 respiratory pathogens such as Flu A, Flu B, RSV, rhinovirus, etc. and then if that is negative send a specimen off for a Coronavirus test. The problem with this is that we only have about 70 of those panels left, and no prospect of getting more.

This is going to get much much worse. I can't give you specifics about any particular patient, but let me just say this: You can be slightly ill with flu-like symptoms, come to the hospital, get a workup and go home. The next day your situation will have deteriorated so much that you go to the hospital by ambulance are admitted to ICU and die 2 days later.

We are NOT prepared for what is coming.
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Keep us updated on this as much as you can. Thanks for your work.
 
I poke my head in here every once in awhile and just laugh at the political back and forth. Please, God, stop this virus and bring back sports!

On that note though, i've noticed that the Trump bashing is still at an all time high. LOL. But please, tell me... why isn't any outrage directed at the abject clowns that are Pelosi and Schumer? The republicans are actually trying to help the American people directly related to this crisis with a bill to help, and the buffoons are holding up the aid package because of all the extraneous, meaningless, yet political **** that they are trying to shove into the bill. People need help!

That is the REAL disgrace here. I mean, you've freaking got to be kidding me. When not one word from all you Trump haters about anything related to this, it shows your dishonesty, and you lose any and all credibility with sane, commonsensical people. But continue to have at it!
 
Stikboy said:
I poke my head in here every once in awhile and just laugh at the political back and forth. Please, God, stop this virus and bring back sports!

On that note though, i've noticed that the Trump bashing is still at an all time high. LOL. But please, tell me... why isn't any outrage directed at the abject clowns that are Pelosi and Schumer? The republicans are actually trying to help the American people directly related to this crisis with a bill to help, and the buffoons are holding up the aid package because of all the extraneous, meaningless, yet political **** that they are trying to shove into the bill. People need help!

That is the REAL disgrace here. I mean, you've freaking got to be kidding me. When not one word from all you Trump haters about anything related to this, it shows your dishonesty, and you lose any and all credibility with sane, commonsensical people. But continue to have at it!
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Because if democrats are called out it gives credence to the other side and they will not have it. There were a couple of comments by a couple of liberal supporters on here who were not enthused with some of the elements that the democrats were trying to force into the bill to help, we Americans, so you have to give those who were honest a pat on the back (save the kicks for later).
 
Re: March Madness and Covid-19
I poke my head in here every once in awhile and just laugh at the political back and forth. Please, God, stop this virus and bring back sports!

On that note though, i've noticed that the Trump bashing is still at an all time high. LOL. But please, tell me... why isn't any outrage directed at the abject clowns that are Pelosi and Schumer? The republicans are actually trying to help the American people directly related to this crisis with a bill to help, and the buffoons are holding up the aid package because of all the extraneous, meaningless, yet political **** that they are trying to shove into the bill. People need help!

That is the REAL disgrace here. I mean, you've freaking got to be kidding me. When not one word from all you Trump haters about anything related to this, it shows your dishonesty, and you lose any and all credibility with sane, commonsensical people. But continue to have at it!
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Pffft, I have no problem bashing those clowns when they do idiotic things. I am pretty sure I commented on it in this thread. Trying to get all that stuff into this particular bill is total BS. I get that is a normal practice on both sides, but with a bill like this during a national emergency you leave all that crap out.

Because if democrats are called out it gives credence to the other side and they will not have it. There were a couple of comments by a couple of liberal supporters on here who were not enthused with some of the elements that the democrats were trying to force into the bill to help, we Americans, so you have to give those who were honest a pat on the back (save the kicks for later).
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Wrong. I don't really think anyone liked that move. I think it was one of the worst thing Pelosi has ever tried to do, just because the nature of the bill and the timeline. People have mortgages to pay and they delayed it trying to get legislation passed.

I don't even like that practice at all. For most things, I like the idea of one issue, one bill. That would prevent both sides from trying to cram in all their crap into bills.

None of that changes anything that was said about Trump, but it's really the same argument as before that we have covered several times that you guys have tried to pull.

"I notice you didn't condemn Vladimir Putin... you must love dictators"..... Etc
 
That is the REAL disgrace here. I mean, you've freaking got to be kidding me. When not one word from all you Trump haters about anything related to this, it shows your dishonesty, and you lose any and all credibility with sane, commonsensical people. But continue to have at it!
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This just isn't true. We did comment on it.
 
thebigabd said:
Pffft, I have no problem bashing those clowns when they do idiotic things. I am pretty sure I commented on it in this thread. Trying to get all that stuff into this particular bill is total BS. I get that is a normal practice on both sides, but with a bill like this during a national emergency you leave all that crap out.



Wrong. I don't really think anyone liked that move. I think it was one of the worst thing Pelosi has ever tried to do, just because the nature of the bill and the timeline. People have mortgages to pay and they delayed it trying to get legislation passed.

I don't even like that practice at all. For most things, I like the idea of one issue, one bill. That would prevent both sides from trying to cram in all their crap into bills.

None of that changes anything that was said about Trump, but it's really the same argument as before that we have covered several times that you guys have tried to pull.

"I notice you didn't condemn Vladimir Putin... you must love dictators"..... Etc
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I mentioned there were some who objected.
 
coolm said:
is that a yes or a no? at least be sure to provide an answer in the midst of making fun of me for speaking the truth.
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I can't think of a less productive thing to do with my time. You've made it abundantly clear you don't like Trump, and are essentially restating the same stuff over and over.
 
Eielson said:
I can't think of a less productive thing to do with my time. You've made it abundantly clear you don't like Trump, and are essentially restating the same stuff over and over.
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You can count me in as well for it's just fruitless to think otherwise. I just hope white doesn't clash with his skin color!
 
steverocks35 said:
You guys have probably already seen the nurses in New York using makeshift PPE made from garbage bags.

This is going to get much much worse. I can't give you specifics about any particular patient, but let me just say this: You can be slightly ill with flu-like symptoms, come to the hospital, get a workup and go home. The next day your situation will have deteriorated so much that you go to the hospital by ambulance are admitted to ICU and die 2 days later.

We are NOT prepared for what is coming.
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As far as nurses using garbage bags for PPEs and it getting to a post on social media, I just watched Gov Cuomo's presser and he said the hospital did have PPE. They even called the hospital and the hospital and head of nurses both confirmed they had plenty of PPE. It appears there is more to the story than the pic, like they were trying to make a statement.

Your last point about the differences in symptoms and how quickly someone can change. I have seen a couple of frontline doctors the last couple of days and they said this was the most serious thing to them. With most viruses, everyone has similar symptoms, or the symptoms follow a common progression. It doesn't appear to be with the virus.

Thanks for the fight on this and stay well.
 
MJSooner said:
As far as nurses using garbage bags for PPEs and it getting to a post on social media, I just watched Gov Cuomo's presser and he said the hospital did have PPE. They even called the hospital and the hospital and head of nurses both confirmed they had plenty of PPE. It appears there is more to the story than the pic, like they were trying to make a statement.

Your last point about the differences in symptoms and how quickly someone can change. I have seen a couple of frontline doctors the last couple of days and they said this was the most serious thing to them. With most viruses, everyone has similar symptoms, or the symptoms follow a common progression. It doesn't appear to be with the virus.

Thanks for the fight on this and stay well.
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I would agree this is not the time to falsify things so as to make others look like they are lacking diligence. Just not the time for it.
 
Stikboy said:
I poke my head in here every once in awhile and just laugh at the political back and forth. Please, God, stop this virus and bring back sports!

On that note though, i've noticed that the Trump bashing is still at an all time high. LOL. But please, tell me... why isn't any outrage directed at the abject clowns that are Pelosi and Schumer? The republicans are actually trying to help the American people directly related to this crisis with a bill to help, and the buffoons are holding up the aid package because of all the extraneous, meaningless, yet political **** that they are trying to shove into the bill. People need help!

That is the REAL disgrace here. I mean, you've freaking got to be kidding me. When not one word from all you Trump haters about anything related to this, it shows your dishonesty, and you lose any and all credibility with sane, commonsensical people. But continue to have at it!
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What Pelosi did was wrong & I was scared last night she’d find a way to delay the package again. Even though I’m glad the 1st one didn’t pass & from what I’ve read this new one looks good.

Pelosi isn’t the ideal leader for most democrats imo. Just like Trump isn’t the ideal leader for some Republicans
 
Doesn't appear like much, but the number will continue to climb. 1863 people have recovered from the virus overall.
 
sheepdogs1 said:
Doesn't appear like much, but the number will continue to climb. 1863 people have recovered from the virus overall.
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I have felt from early on the total recoveries should also be reported in the numbers. THe only problem is that could also be discouraging when you see as many critical patients, 1,857 as recovered out of 75,000 cases.

What is even more discouraging is we will surpass China in the next 24 hours on the total number of cases, even though their first case was 2 months earlier than ours and we have only a fourth of their population.
 
MJSooner said:
I have felt from early on the total recoveries should also be reported in the numbers. THe only problem is that could also be discouraging when you see as many critical patients, 1,857 as recovered out of 75,000 cases.

What is even more discouraging is we will surpass China in the next 24 hours on the total number of cases, even though their first case was 2 months earlier than ours and we have only a fourth of their population.
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The thing is we are early on in the process so the recovery numbers have to the lag the new cases for the most part. Some new cases are people who only recently were contaminated by the virus thus it will take a period of time for them to recover completely (perhaps 1 to 2 weeks if not more).
 
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BCSooners said:
What Pelosi did was wrong & I was scared last night she’d find a way to delay the package again. Even though I’m glad the 1st one didn’t pass & from what I’ve read this new one looks good.

Pelosi isn’t the ideal leader for most democrats imo. Just like Trump isn’t the ideal leader for some Republicans
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Pelosi is nothing more than a Democratic pawn, an easy-to-maneuver spokesperson for the likes of Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff. She was good at her job once, but not now.

I agree that Trump is not an “ideal” leader. But his flaws center more around his narcissistic personality that leads him to make diarrhea of the mouth mistakes, and to make dumb tweets without engaging his brain to think about the public’s perception of what he has to say.

I don’t have much of a problem with Trump as a leader. He has done and is still doing (or at least trying to do) exactly what he promised during his campaign. And, thanks to the aforementioned Democrats and their cronies, it hasn’t been easy.

But, to his credit, he has stayed the course despite the odds and delivered on most of what he said he would do. That, and the fact my own party can’t seem to find a candidate worthy of my vote, is why DR will get the nod from me again in November.
 
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