March Madness and Covid-19

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AdaSooner said:
Great interview! I watched it last week.

Impressive young man! It’s obvious he’s not a fan of national healthcare. I worked in a hospital for more than two decades, so I know a little about our healthcare system. The red tape alone is already a nightmare! I shudder to think what it would be like if a committee of bureaucrats was in charge of critical decisions affecting my family’s health and well being. Why would anyone in their right mind want the federal government more involved in our lives than they are now?
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I think til abd wises up we give him a "c." Get it?
 
sheepdogs1 said:
I think til abd wises up we give him a "c." Get it?
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Not sure? You might have to ‘splain that one for me.

In any event, thebigabd is the least of our worries. He’s not nearly as radical as he appears to be sometimes. He likes to create controversy, enjoys it actually. He’s also got a wife that keeps him in check.. :ez-laugh:
 
AdaSooner said:
Not sure? You might have to ‘splain that one for me.

In any event, thebigabd is the least of our worries. He’s not nearly as radical as he appears to be sometimes. He likes to create controversy, enjoys it actually. He’s also got a wife that keeps him in check.. :ez-laugh:
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More like "spend the check."

A,B,"C",D...........
 
sheepdogs1 said:
More like "spend the check."

A,B,"C",D...........
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Got it now. :)

A “C” may seem to fit, but not if you know what the ABD means. It’s possible my Trump posts will cost me a friend or two. I don’t want to upset someone who has been a friend on fan boards since 2001.
 
AdaSooner said:
Got it now. :)

A “C” may seem to fit, but not if you know what the ABD means. It’s possible my Trump posts will cost me a friend or two. I don’t want to upset someone who has been a friend on fan boards since 2001.
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He'll get through it. He has a wife to hold his.................hand.
 
MJSooner said:
As far as nurses using garbage bags for PPEs and it getting to a post on social media, I just watched Gov Cuomo's presser and he said the hospital did have PPE. They even called the hospital and the hospital and head of nurses both confirmed they had plenty of PPE. It appears there is more to the story than the pic, like they were trying to make a statement.

Your last point about the differences in symptoms and how quickly someone can change. I have seen a couple of frontline doctors the last couple of days and they said this was the most serious thing to them. With most viruses, everyone has similar symptoms, or the symptoms follow a common progression. It doesn't appear to be with the virus.

Thanks for the fight on this and stay well.
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I can't speak to specific incident discussed above, but nobody has enough PPE in NY. Nobody.

And that's not really a criticism of the state -- there was no way to be fully prepared for this. We have to get resourceful.
 
MsProudSooner said:
Everyone else is weighing in on their personal politics so I might as well do the same.

I first registered to vote in 1968 and I registered as a Republican. Not a lot of deep thought went into it - my parents were Republicans and Dwight Eisenhower was one of my heroes. At the time, I thought the Republicans would be more careful with my tax dollar.

As time went on and the Republicans became more and more conservative on social issues I wasn't as in tune with them as much. But, I didn't want to be a one issue voter and conventional wisdom said you needed to be a Republican to have someone to vote for or against in the primaries so I stayed.

By the 1980s, I worked for a Fortune 500 company. The employees at my company were treated well and what was good for business was good for me, right? So I stayed a Republican. Fast forward a few years and things began to change. Pension plans were frozen but unless you were making significantly more than I made, you couldn't afford to put enough into your 401K to make up the difference. Premium payments on our health insurance went up and up but the amount they would pay shrank. Raises became smaller and smaller and then went away altogether. The company sold my part of the company and we were shifted from company, to company, to company - 6 different times. Each time, the bigwigs made a boatload of money and the rank and file employees got the shaft. Even so, I stayed a Republican - even though I voted for fewer and few Republicans - until about 5 years ago.

There were a few straws that broke the camel's back:

1) The constant strangulation of the Oklahoma public schools by the Oklahoma legislature.
2) The emergence of people like Sarah Palin in Republican power circles.

I'm not sure if I've posted it here, but I loathe Donald Trump. I've voted in every Presidential election since 1968 and he is the only candidate that has run that has absolutely no redeeming qualities - no integrity, no honor - nothing.

You say his policies have been good? Maybe if you had a lot invested in the stock market he is. But if you can't afford those luxuries, he hasn't been good for you. If you want more air pollution and more water pollution, he's your man. If you are a racist who has privately fumed at what you call political correctness, he's your man. If you are a guy who wants to grab women who don't want to be grabbed and suffer no consequences, he's your man. If you don't like public education you love the person he put in charge. I could go on but you get the message. History will look back on DT as the worst American President by far.
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"Survivors of sexual violence should be believed."

"Women should immediately be believed" Hillary Clinton

What are your thoughts on this, MPS?

Her recollection of events starts at the 4:15 mark.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14tfnIkQ-qU
 
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BoulderSooner said:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/epid...admits-he-was-wrong-drastically-revises-model

edidemiologist thinks his numbers were very wrong

now the UK thinks they have plenty of ICU beds ( note the USA has the most ICU beds per capita)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551445/

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/
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There definitely are not enough ICU beds in NY. We're already having to get resourceful at nearly every hospital in and around NYC. I talked with somebody that had 13 COVID deaths just last night at their hospital, and most hospitals are preparing to split vents among multiple patients (if they haven't started already). From the projections I'm hearing, it sounds like we won't hit our peak until May. At this time, I don't feel there have been many deaths due to lack of resources, but I fear we may be approaching that point in the near-future.

NY is going to be stretched to it's limit (or worse), and I feel that it will eventually hit most of the NE with similar force. It's beyond my paygrade to predict whether or not this will spread to the entire country, and it's likely going to hit the NE much worse than other parts of the country, but I don't feel any hospital's administration is sleeping well yet.

I just hope NYC can set the blueprint for the rest of the country. I know of multiple hospitals that have 30+ patients on ventilators and haven't successfully extubated a single one. Only a small percentage of COVID patients require intubations, but those that do have not done well. Expect the death tolls in NY to continue climbing over the next few days.
 
Eielson said:
There definitely are not enough ICU beds in NY. We're already having to get resourceful at nearly every hospital in and around NYC. I talked with somebody that had 13 COVID deaths just last night at their hospital, and most hospitals are preparing to split vents among multiple patients (if they haven't started already). From the projections I'm hearing, it sounds like we won't hit our peak until May. At this time, I don't feel there have been many deaths due to lack of resources, but I fear we may be approaching that point in the near-future.

NY is going to be stretched to it's limit (or worse), and I feel that it will eventually hit most of the NE with similar force. It's beyond my paygrade to predict whether or not this will spread to the entire country, and it's likely going to hit the NE much worse than other parts of the country, but I don't feel any hospital's administration is sleeping well yet.

I just hope NYC can set the blueprint for the rest of the country. I know of multiple hospitals that have 30+ patients on ventilators and haven't successfully extubated a single one. Only a small percentage of COVID patients require intubations, but those that do have not done well. Expect the death tolls in NY to continue climbing over the next few days.
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thank you for the update and the information
 
Eielson said:
There definitely are not enough ICU beds in NY. We're already having to get resourceful at nearly every hospital in and around NYC. I talked with somebody that had 13 COVID deaths just last night at their hospital, and most hospitals are preparing to split vents among multiple patients (if they haven't started already). From the projections I'm hearing, it sounds like we won't hit our peak until May. At this time, I don't feel there have been many deaths due to lack of resources, but I fear we may be approaching that point in the near-future.

NY is going to be stretched to it's limit (or worse), and I feel that it will eventually hit most of the NE with similar force. It's beyond my paygrade to predict whether or not this will spread to the entire country, and it's likely going to hit the NE much worse than other parts of the country, but I don't feel any hospital's administration is sleeping well yet.

I just hope NYC can set the blueprint for the rest of the country. I know of multiple hospitals that have 30+ patients on ventilators and haven't successfully extubated a single one. Only a small percentage of COVID patients require intubations, but those that do have not done well. Expect the death tolls in NY to continue climbing over the next few days.
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Grim news, thank you though.
 
Trump said this yesterday:

“I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”- Donald Trump

And today he is tweet yelling at New York, Ford, GM, and others to produce more ventilators.
 
thebigabd said:
Trump said this yesterday:

“I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”- Donald Trump

And today he is tweet yelling at New York, Ford, GM, and others to produce more ventilators.
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The ventilators are not just for New York.
 
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This is the most complete, informative video I have seen on the Covid-19 Virus. The doctor is on the frontline of patient care at one of the premier hospitals in NYC. It’s long (around 52 minutes), but well worth the time it will take you to watch it. He answered all of my questions about this virus, especially those pertaining to protecting myself as well as members of my family.

Sorry if it has already been posted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxyH1rkuLaw
 
you can't make a just-in-time supply system to meet ventilator needs - which seems to be trump's "plan". even if you can cut down the transit time to hours you can't get peoples' bodies to wait hours before receiving O2.
 
House passed the bill, it’s done in Congress. Expected to be signed by Trump later today.
 
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