March Madness and Covid-19

[sheepdogs1]

As we have debated on this board, a President's words matter or they do not. You cannot say words matter in some cases, but not in other cases.

It's called selective convenience. If people, and they know who they are, take a stance that placing one's elbow on the table is the root of all evils then anyone who does it is in the wrong as opposed to purposely singling out those from the same crowd. They just do not get their bowels are not a sight for sore eyes.

You have heard people suggest that we should have taken the outbreak more seriously 2 months ago, as individuals of communities and all the way to the top of government, and that is fine. It is fine, but what these individuals do, as it relates to selective convenience, is turn a blind eye to how liberal run media outlets were telling the masses that the flu was worse than the virus called Covid-19. The NYT, Washington Post, USA Today, to name a few, all were guilty of this yet to them it is all irrelevant.

Does the media not shape the narrative of what they report? They sure do! And the only compelling reason why they took this stance was because they decided what pole of the magnet the administration was at and they go 180 on it. Complicit charlatans.

 

[AdaSooner]

As we have debated on this board, a President's words matter or they do not. You cannot say words matter in some cases, but not in other cases.

I respect Obama as a person and father but did not support his policies. My position on the current president is more opposite of that. But what I don't think can be denied, especially if you look at with an open mind, the one thing they both have in common is a strong love for self.

MJSooner, Trump haters can’t look at anything he says or does with an open mind. I get the criticism. He deserves it sometimes. It’s the blind hatred that drives some of his opposition to only focus on the negatives I don’t understand. People like that are to be pitied.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I said I don’t care if Trump misspeaks. I’m tired of his narcissism, antics, & divisive nature. I quoted ABD to help prove a point I was making. I gave him credit for lowering welfare, but pointed out a lot more things that I think he’s been wrong to a poster who was defending him. I see you haven’t refuted any of my points or opinions just trying to attack how I go about it. I’m not a pick & choose guy, I’ll answer any question as long as the other poster shows the same courtesy. You want to talk about convenience? When someone disputes what you say with facts you change the subject or say I choose what I want to see. Like you are doing with MJ right now on economic growth.

I said to MJ that the trend is one aspect. I did not say it was a tell all and I explicitly stated that to him. He might think that is what I'm hanging my hat on, and it his prerogative to do so, but that was not what I was saying.

I am not saying Trump is a lovable character like Obama came across as, but I really do not care. I care more about results such as the taste of the food being served rather than the smile the chef makes while serving those at the table. Not sure if you watched Seinfeld, but think "Soup Nazi" (and that episode was based off of an anecdotal situation).

And if I came across too harsh then I apologize. I apologize.

 

[steverocks35]

MJSooner, Trump haters can’t look at anything he says or does with an open mind. I get the criticism. He deserves it sometimes. It’s the blind hatred that drives some of his opposition to only focus on the negatives I don’t understand. People like that are to be pitied.

I base my thinking about Trump on facts and data. There's nothing blind about it.

 

[sheepdogs1]

MJSooner, Trump haters can’t look at anything he says or does with an open mind. I get the criticism. He deserves it sometimes. It’s the blind hatred that drives some of his opposition to only focus on the negatives I don’t understand. People like that are to be pitied.

And these very same people help Trump's reelection. There are those in the democratic party who have had it and asking for a change of the guard as it pertains to their allegiance.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I base my thinking about Trump on facts and data. There's nothing blind about it.

He was not talking about you specifically. He was talking to you about others. Nothing else.

 

[steverocks35]

He was not talking about you specifically. He was talking to you about others. Nothing else.

Do you feel the need to reply to every single post in this thread? Seriously. He can speak for himself.

 

[WTSooner]

Do you feel the need to reply to every single post in this thread? Seriously. He can speak for himself.

Pot. Kettle.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Do you feel the need to reply to every single post in this thread? Seriously. He can speak for himself.

I will let Ada make that declaration for himself and I can assure you he has no qualms whatsoever that I pointed out the obvious. What has become of you?

 

[steverocks35]

I will let Ada make that declaration for himself and I can assure you he has no qualms whatsoever that I pointed out the obvious. What has become of you?

So that's a yes, lol.

 

[steverocks35]

Pot. Kettle.

I reply almost exclusively to people that reply to my posts or ask me questions directly, go check. I completely stayed out of the legal discussions.

 

[sheepdogs1]

So that's a yes, lol.

Can you pretend I'm not replying to you so you'll feel safe. Again, what has become of you? I know you are a busy fellow and chances are that limits your time here for it seems you use your lunch break to post here and then it is back to work and it is perfectly understood. I am retired, and due to social distancing, I have more time on my hands than I know what to do with. If if makes you feel good to hold that against me then hold it to the fullest extent.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I reply almost exclusively to people that reply to my posts or ask me questions directly, go check. I completely stayed out of the legal discussions.

I am trying to take care of an elderly woman who is to be 94 this month and it drains me in more ways than one. This board is one of my outlets. If you want to ridicule me for it then so be it. Would it be asking too much of you to show some compassion?

I will not reply to any of your posts so as to help alleviate your pain. Of course when basketball season starts then I'll sing a different tune.

 

[steverocks35]

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/

Guys, here is the data for the state on Covid-19 patients. Scroll to the bottom and check out that graph. I think our numbers of infected are a lot higher though based on that death toll of 30. 30/0.14=2,143. That's if you work backwards from the number of dead and assume a death rate of 1.4%. That curve is definitely logarithmic at this point.

 

[MJSooner]

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/

Guys, here is the data for the state on Covid-19 patients. Scroll to the bottom and check out that graph. I think our numbers of infected are a lot higher though based on that death toll of 30. 30/0.14=2,143. That's if you work backwards from the number of dead and assume a death rate of 1.4%. That curve is definitely logarithmic at this point.

Probably so. Even Stitt admitted a week ago our numbers were likely 5-8 times higher than the numbers showed. Improved testing and more testing is also more than likely why we are escalating so rapidly. Interesting to note that as the number of deaths has increased, it is now showing those elderly are now the overwhelming majority of deaths, at least 70%. I also think the age bands are too wide. A lot of difference in a 50-51 yr old on the health spectrum vs. a 63-64-year-old. With 8 deaths in 50-64, it would be interesting to see the ages. The number of hospitalizations is also concerning- 219 of the 719 cases.

Absolutely amazing how many more cases and deaths in the OKC metro area vs. Tulsa metro, with only about 20% more population.

 

[steverocks35]

Governor Stitt extended his stay-at-home order to the entire state today.

 

[MJSooner]

Governor Stitt extended his stay-at-home order to the entire state today.

Considering basically every city in OK with any significant population has already done so, I am not sure if his order is really meaningful. Kind of like shutting down the schools, OKC and Tulsa, he was not involved in the decision and any order he gave was after the fact.

Hard to give him credit for doing this now. Especially since even the FL governor issued one before him. At least, I guess, you can say he wasn't the absolute last state this time like he was with the emergency declaration. Just the 38th- making progress.

 

[steverocks35]

Considering basically every city in OK with any significant population has already done so, I am not sure if his order is really meaningful. Kind of like shutting down the schools, OKC and Tulsa, he was not involved in the decision and any order he gave was after the fact.

Hard to give him credit for doing this now. Especially since even the FL governor issued one before him. At least, I guess, you can say he wasn't the absolute last state this time like he was with the emergency declaration. Just the 38th- making progress.

Yep agree

 

[MJSooner]

Governor Stitt extended his stay-at-home order to the entire state today.

Another testimony to the job done, or lack thereof, by our governor in this crisis.

If you are not doing testing, don't have enough tests, and not controlling mitigation, what do you think is going to happen to the numbers?

I read in another article in the last few days we were 3rd or 4th in the nation in the percentage of increase in cases, something like a 281% increase in a 5-day span.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/31/testing-coronavirus-blindspots-157993

 

[thebigabd]

Hopefully at election time the people remember that he practically mocked the virus in the beginning, and is just an idiot in general.