March Madness and Covid-19

[WTSooner]

Yes at bare minimum. There’s plenty he could have done but instead he tweets all day and plays golf.

The golf thing cracks me up. As if he is supposed to sit in the White House 24 hours a day. The fact that he is able to play golf is exactly why I do NOT blame him for our response/results. There is only so much he can do. This is much better handled at the state/city level, b/c there are VASTLY different situations around the country. Doing the same thing in Maine, and NY, and Florida, and Alaska, and Hawaii, and Idado, and California is lunacy. Each state doesn't need the exact same response at the exact same time. Period. That really shouldn't be up for debate.

You are a scientist, why do you take ANY free time when you could be the one out there figuring out a cure/vaccine? Every minute you spend on this board, or with your family, you are simply killing people steve.

See how stupid that sounds?

 

[sheepdogs1]

The golf thing cracks me up. As if he is supposed to sit in the White House 24 hours a day. The fact that he is able to play golf is exactly why I do NOT blame him for our response/results. There is only so much he can do. This is much better handled at the state/city level, b/c there are VASTLY different situations around the country. Doing the same thing in Maine, and NY, and Florida, and Alaska, and Hawaii, and Idado, and California is lunacy. Each state doesn't need the exact same response at the exact same time. Period. That really shouldn't be up for debate.

You are a scientist, why do you take ANY free time when you could be the one out there figuring out a cure/vaccine? Every minute you spend on this board, or with your family, you are simply killing people steve.

See how stupid that sounds?

When people are not afraid of reality/truths you will see a change. When people realize their existence is just fleeting and not as important as they think it is you will see a change. Be prepared to wait, be very prepared. It is most people's lot in life to believe they are the "center of the universe" for solutions and answers when most are actually the "center of the universe" for trouble and corruptness. There are many sides to the world which are not beautiful at all and people are the reason and cause for it.

 

[MsProudSooner]

The golf thing cracks me up. As if he is supposed to sit in the White House 24 hours a day. The fact that he is able to play golf is exactly why I do NOT blame him for our response/results. There is only so much he can do. This is much better handled at the state/city level, b/c there are VASTLY different situations around the country. Doing the same thing in Maine, and NY, and Florida, and Alaska, and Hawaii, and Idado, and California is lunacy. Each state doesn't need the exact same response at the exact same time. Period. That really shouldn't be up for debate.

You are a scientist, why do you take ANY free time when you could be the one out there figuring out a cure/vaccine? Every minute you spend on this board, or with your family, you are simply killing people steve.

See how stupid that sounds?

No one says he should never play golf. But he has taken it to the extreme - and he almost always plays on courses he owns, so he's lining his pockets at the same time.

How many times has Trump played golf as President of the United States? Since taking office on Jan. 20, 2017, Mr. Trump has reportedly been on the grounds of his golf courses or played golf elsewhere 280 times since becoming President, and that's as of July 26, 2020.

The cost of Trump's golf rounds to the American taxpayer varies by round and course, but it has totaled so far in the tens of millions of dollars. The Secret Service has spent at least $550,000 in third-party golf cart rentals and over $500,000 to stay overnight at Trump-owned properties, including his New Jersey country club.

The frequency with which Trump plays golf isn't really an issue -- just as it wasn't for former President Barack Obama. The presidency is an overwhelmingly difficult job, and the office-holder is certainly entitled to a handful of hours every week to take a load off. However, Trump was particularly critical of how many rounds President Barack Obama played in office, and so now he looks somewhat hypocritical in retrospect.

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2020/07/26/how-many-times-president-donald-trump-played-golf-in-office-103836/

 

[WTSooner]

No one says he should never play golf. But he has taken it to the extreme - and he almost always plays on courses he owns, so he's lining his pockets at the same time.



https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2020/07/26/how-many-times-president-donald-trump-played-golf-in-office-103836/

How many other Presidents owned golf courses? It makes sense to me that he'd want to play the courses he played before becoming President, which happen to be his. I don't have a problem with the money as long as they are charging what they would normally charge. I would think Trump himself would play free. Would that be true if he were playing other courses he didn't own?

And as for the cost, if he wasn't golfing, at least some of that time, he'd be doing "other things" that would likely require the spending of money, right? It's not as if if he was not golfing, he'd just sit at home. I remember Obama and his wife liked to spend a lot of money on balls and galas and the likes. I remember some pretty darned expensive dresses that were paid for.

 

[steverocks35]

This is much better handled at the state/city level, b/c there are VASTLY different situations around the country. Doing the same thing in Maine, and NY, and Florida, and Alaska, and Hawaii, and Idado, and California is lunacy. Each state doesn't need the exact same response at the exact same time. Period. That really shouldn't be up for debate.

A pandemic is very much NOT handled better at the state/city level. That’s breathtakingly stupid.

 

[sheepdogs1]

How many other Presidents owned golf courses? It makes sense to me that he'd want to play the courses he played before becoming President, which happen to be his. I don't have a problem with the money as long as they are charging what they would normally charge. I would think Trump himself would play free. Would that be true if he were playing other courses he didn't own?

And as for the cost, if he wasn't golfing, at least some of that time, he'd be doing "other things" that would likely require the spending of money, right? It's not as if if he was not golfing, he'd just sit at home. I remember Obama and his wife liked to spend a lot of money on balls and galas and the likes. I remember some pretty darned expensive dresses that were paid for.

And golfers generally find themselves at ease on certain courses versus others. And courses, which are frequented, are courses where the golfer remembers their best score and that round/score is always a target to best that score. A golfer never walks onto a previously visited course without the goal of trying to best that score. Never.

 

[BCSooners]

How many other Presidents owned golf courses? It makes sense to me that he'd want to play the courses he played before becoming President, which happen to be his. I don't have a problem with the money as long as they are charging what they would normally charge. I would think Trump himself would play free. Would that be true if he were playing other courses he didn't own?

And as for the cost, if he wasn't golfing, at least some of that time, he'd be doing "other things" that would likely require the spending of money, right? It's not as if if he was not golfing, he'd just sit at home. I remember Obama and his wife liked to spend a lot of money on balls and galas and the likes. I remember some pretty darned expensive dresses that were paid for.

The main problem to me is that Trump b*tched about Obama’s golfing all the time. Now Trump is on pace to golf as much in 4 years than Obama did in 8.

Also Obama golfed at military bases over half the time, Trump has always went to his owned courses.

 

[WTSooner]

A pandemic is very much NOT handled better at the state/city level. That’s breathtakingly stupid.

Because you say so?

BTW, you posting here instead of working on a vaccine just killed another 2 people. How do you live with yourself?

 

[sheepdogs1]

The main problem to me is that Trump b*tched about Obama’s golfing all the time. Now Trump is on pace to golf as much in 4 years than Obama did in 8.

Also Obama golfed at military bases over half the time, Trump has always went to his owned courses.

On a comical note Barak was a poor golfer. Some people drink ripple while others prefer champagne.

 

[steverocks35]

Because you say so?

No, because about a million experts say so, and if you don’t believe them just look at how poorly we are doing.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I wonder if people can explain how what goes on at the 2:20 mark in the video is something the federal government could intervene and prevent from occurring. It is societies role and responsibility to partake or not partake in such activities. Activities like this, and one's which are closely similar occur far too often given present day circumstances, and the irresponsible finger pointing remains endless and ongoing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QhbuvCK0Gg&t=147s

 

[mict085]

Because you say so?

BTW, you posting here instead of working on a vaccine just killed another 2 people. How do you live with yourself?

LOL. Steve doesn’t work on a vaccine. People with degrees in “public health” don’t rise to that level. Blood is drawn from a patient and sent to a lab where Steve puts it in a machine that analyzes it and then prints out a report for whatever test was ordered. He probably also makes the schedule for the lab techs, you know, cuz he runs a VA lab in Tulsa.

Don’t you know how vital Steve is during this pandemic? He’s only angry in this thread because the president refuses to consult him on how to respond to a pandemic. He’s an important guy.

 

[steverocks35]

LOL. Steve doesn’t work on a vaccine. People with degrees in “public health” don’t rise to that level. Blood is drawn from a patient and sent to a lab where Steve puts it in a machine that analyzes it and then prints out a report for whatever test was ordered. He probably also makes the schedule for the lab techs, you know, cuz he runs a VA lab in Tulsa.

Don’t you know how vital Steve is during this pandemic? He’s only angry in this thread because the president refuses to consult him on how to respond to a pandemic. He’s an important guy.

Haha. Sure ambulance driver, you have no idea what I do.

 

[mict085]

Haha. Sure ambulance driver, you have no idea what I do.

Ambulance driver? LOL. You have no idea what I do.

 

[steverocks35]

Ambulance driver? LOL. You have no idea what I do.

Oh I do, you probably got a certificate down at the vo-tech, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

 

[WTSooner]

No, because about a million experts say so, and if you don’t believe them just look at how poorly we are doing.

I already showed you that other countries close to our size had more targeted approaches, and the same goes for the EU. The entire EU, a lot of the time, wasn't doing the same things on the same schedule. That's a fact. The countries looked to the EU for advice and guidance, but the decision making was done on a much more targeted approach.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I already showed you that other countries close to our size had more targeted approaches, and the same goes for the EU. The entire EU, a lot of the time, wasn't doing the same things on the same schedule. That's a fact. The countries looked to the EU for advice and guidance, but the decision making was done on a much more targeted approach.

This computes/this does not compute. Obvious/oblivious.

 

[steverocks35]

I already showed you that other countries close to our size had more targeted approaches, and the same goes for the EU. The entire EU, a lot of the time, wasn't doing the same things on the same schedule. That's a fact. The countries looked to the EU for advice and guidance, but the decision making was done on a much more targeted approach.

Every country that did well had a national coordinated response.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

It's time to open your mind a bit, Bounce. I agree that Americans should not need anyone to tell them to: 1) wear a mask, 2) social distance, and 3) exercise a little common sense. That said, you know as well as I do that the primary credit or blame for something that either goes well or doesn't - starts at the top. Had America handled this better than most other countries, you know as well as I do that President Trump would be bragging about it. As such, he has to take his fair share of the blame that things have gone horribly wrong. His leadership throughout has been poor.

The good news is that most of the people at or near the political center don't have much use for his November challenger, either. That means we're deciding between the 'lesser of two evils'. It actually makes the right more credible to the center by simply admitting the obvious - our President has done a poor job throughout this process. It's no crime to admit that while still believing he's the best candidate to lead our country for the next four years.

Nothing you posted addressed my statement.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

A pandemic is very much NOT handled better at the state/city level. That’s breathtakingly stupid.

It is for the states. Otherwise, you wouldn’t see variances in results among states.

Trump could have done some things differently. But nothing would have changed the magnitude of our results. And that is because it falls on individuals to do the right thing. Trump supporting masks earlier may have lowered the numbers, but not substantially to where the perception of how the us handled it changed.

Again, I go back to that even the beloved fauci was saying not to where masks in march. So why expect trump to support them in February?