#19 OU vs #36 OSU thoughts

[ksSooner13]

Hate to break up this fun little forum fight, but can someone explain to me how OSU turned the ball over 24 times against TCU.... I was watching the Wichita State game and missed it, just wondering what happened

 

[tycat947]

Hate to break up this fun little forum fight, but can someone explain to me how OSU turned the ball over 24 times against TCU.... I was watching the Wichita State game and missed it, just wondering what happened

Maybe it was because Madison Square Garden (GIA) of the Plains was about half full, which is totally unbelievable since they are a basketball power!!!

:ez-roll:

 

[AdaSooner]

Maybe it was because Madison Square Garden (GIA) of the Plains was about half full, which is totally unbelievable since they are a basketball power!!!

:ez-roll:

I'm not sure GIA was even half full. There were empty seats throughout the arena, and lots of them.

 

[TheGimper]

I'm not sure GIA was even half full. There were empty seats throughout the arena, and lots of them.

But Doug Bell said GIA was back!

 

[Chaser728]

See here is my question: there a lot of different RPI Rankings out there... Which one does the Tourney Selection Commitie look at?

 

[Vinny78]

About 5,000 there tonight, SAD, lol. Boone didn't buy any tickets and the farmers can't pay $10 to get in

 

[GIA Stout]

This thread will be even more ironic than it already is when that underground bunker/gymnastics center looks like a demilitarized zone on Saturday, this while hosting your rival. I've seen deer run through the LNC over the past half decade.

 

[GIA Stout]

About 5,000 there tonight, SAD, lol. Boone didn't buy any tickets and the farmers can't pay $10 to get in

Haven't you had less than 1k show up for games this year? I watched that SFA thriller, I'd say 1400 tops.

 

[TheGimper]

This thread will be even more ironic than it already is when that underground bunker/gymnastics center looks like a demilitarized zone on Saturday, this while hosting your rival. I've seen deer run through the LNC over the past half decade.

Attendance has been the same for OU/OSU in about that time period. However, in that period OU has never:
1) made false claims about our stellar attendance
2) had a billionaire buy out all the tickets and give them away because they would have trouble drawing against a top 10 opponent while they were also ranked
3) created an "Occupy LNC" movement (like last year's "Occupy GIA") in a desperate attempt to gain more attendance (something that clearly didn't work
4) desperately tried to create false excitement with the student body by creating twenty-five different "Lob Stilly" t-shirts in order to convince the students that sure, we may have a losing Big 12 record but sometimes Markel Brown dunks the ball. Also, please ignore the fact that Lob Stilly is a play on words that highlights an OU players greatness in the NBA.

So, please continue to try and disparage OU fan's attendance. By the way, last season OSU pulled in less than 100 more people for the OSU/OU game in Stillwater than the game here in Norman. What makes that even sadder is that the game in Stillwater actually showed an OSU team that still had NCAA tournament dreams. When they came to Norman both teams were in the absolute toilet and we barely had an attendance difference.

 

[GIA Stout]

Attendance has been the same for OU/OSU in about that time period. However, in that period OU has never:
1) made false claims about our stellar attendance
2) had a billionaire buy out all the tickets and give them away because they would have trouble drawing against a top 10 opponent while they were also ranked
3) created an "Occupy LNC" movement (like last year's "Occupy GIA") in a desperate attempt to gain more attendance (something that clearly didn't work
4) desperately tried to create false excitement with the student body by creating twenty-five different "Lob Stilly" t-shirts in order to convince the students that sure, we may have a losing Big 12 record but sometimes Markel Brown dunks the ball. Also, please ignore the fact that Lob Stilly is a play on words that highlights an OU players greatness in the NBA.

So, please continue to try and disparage OU fan's attendance. By the way, last season OSU pulled in less than 100 more people for the OSU/OU game in Stillwater than the game here in Norman. What makes that even sadder is that the game in Stillwater actually showed an OSU team that still had NCAA tournament dreams. When they came to Norman both teams were in the absolute toilet and we barely had an attendance difference.

That crater you play in would have trouble getting half full if you were playing Duke. And please, you all have been letting people into certain games for free for years now, I've gone to them. If you all haven't been doing anything to get people to come to games (other than missing the postseason altogether for 3 straight years) then it definitely shows. You might wanna think about it before you finish behind TCU and/or Tech in attendance. I'll be there on Saturday with another to help. I haven't been to a game there since ya' hired Unibrow away from UNLV. I'm lookin' forward to it.

 

[skyvue]

That crater you play in would have trouble getting half full if you were playing Duke.

As was stated before, the difference is that we, unlike a steady stream of oswho fans on this site, never claimed to have good attendance.

 

[campbest]

See here is my question: there a lot of different RPI Rankings out there... Which one does the Tourney Selection Commitie look at?

None, the RPI has become almost irrelevant when it comes to the selection committee.

 

[oSuJeff97]

Hate to break up this fun little forum fight, but can someone explain to me how OSU turned the ball over 24 times against TCU.... I was watching the Wichita State game and missed it, just wondering what happened

Basically, the team relaxed and got pretty sloppy once they built a 15-point lead or so with about 3 minutes left in the first half.

At that point, they essentially put the thing in cruise control.

Looking back at the box score, 16 of the 24 turnovers happened after OSU went up 32-17 with 3 minutes left in the first half.

What's pretty amazing is that even with all of those turnovers, OSU pushed the lead to 20 early in the second half, and TCU never got closer than 14 points. They're pretty horrible.

The good news (for OSU) is that Nash actually showed up last night. He got 13 points on 6/10 shooting. He was much more aggressive in taking the ball to the hole. He'll need to do that on Saturday for OSU to win.

 

[oSuJeff97]

As was stated before, the difference is that we, unlike a steady stream of oswho fans on this site, never claimed to have good attendance.

Except that no OSU fan has claimed that in about 4 years.

 

[skyvue]

Except that no OSU fan has claimed that in about 4 years.

Yes they have. But even if they hadn't, you guys, as a group (with the assistance of your enablers in the media), beat that drum long enough and loud enough that you'll be catching grief about it for a while.

If you find that painful or even just annoying, perhaps a Sooner board isn't the place for you.

 

[T_Neal's Twitter]

I haven't been to a game there since ya' hired Unibrow away from UNLV. I'm lookin' forward to it.

That was a clown post. Lon Kruger coaches circles around your measly little napoleon-wannabe consummate little-man syndrome pathetic excuse for a coach.

 

[bocabull]

None, the RPI has become almost irrelevant when it comes to the selection committee.

Actually camp the RPI was created by the selection committee. It is their formula. While they have never released the formula, beginning in 1992 they started informing teams of their ranking and it has been reverse engineered.

The RPI is still their main tool for determining conference strength, strength of schedule & quality wins which is used to separate bubble teams and assist in seeding.

 

[campbest]

Actually camp the RPI was created by the selection committee. It is their formula. While they have never released the formula, beginning in 1992 they started informing teams of their ranking and it has been reverse engineered.

The RPI is still their main tool for determining conference strength, strength of schedule & quality wins which is used to separate bubble teams and assist in seeding.

I would agree with this 5-10 years ago, but the committee chairs over the past couple years have said time again that they look less and less at RPI.

 

[bocabull]

I would agree with this 5-10 years ago, but the committee chairs over the past couple years have said time again that they look less and less at RPI.

Sure because the system is pretty fine tuned.

You have 31 automatic bids, then they determine conference strength and another 20 teams are no brainers, that only leaves them 14 spots from maybe 25 teams on the bubble. It's a pretty simple exercise for them to systematically go through and the RPI is one of 3 or 4 tools they use.

At #19 coming from the Big XII OU currently falls into the no briner category. We just have to maintain it. I keep hearing aggy say the ranking is meaningless this early but we are approaching half way through the season. You would much rather be at 19 than 35.

 

[WaymanFan]

Every system has flaws, including the RPI. Heck, OU is the answer to a trivia question (or at least WAS the answer a few years back). What is the highest RPI rating for a team which did not get an at-large invite to the Dance? Answer: 31 (1994 Sooners). Of course, how the '94 team got even close to 31 is beyond me. We were 5-9 in conference play and went to the NIT with something like a 15-12 record.

RPI flaws aside, if we're #19 two months from now then we're going Dancing!

As for these OU-OSU cat-fights, I remember the good ol' days when the two fan bases argued over which team was BETTER rather than WORSE. Two of the best teams which did not win a title last decade are the '02 Sooners and the '04 Pokes...and the past few years we've been arguing over which one gets to be Valedictorian of summer school. Let's hope for better times ahead. It would be great for both schools.