#9 OU @ #13 Tech 8:00pm ESPN

steverocks35 said:
Dude, give it a rest. We clearly fouled them.
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Let’s pretend that those were fouls (they weren’t) but let’s pretend. Now explain how getting elbowed in the face is not a foul? Not even a review?
 
Defense was good! Can’t believe we held Mclung to 0 for 7.
 
I don't think officials actually get a team to win or not, but they definitely can have an influence. Called home court...crowds get into it start yelling etc...it's human nature. Coaches as well...

I'd say basketball much more than football for sure...

It really seemed tech was just as handy's as us...they were on us like stink on ****. Normally l look at the type of def being played...the one thing tech did was they were in our ass from the tip. Refs see that and get use to it...then when another team tries to do that after not it's not "normal" def...hence more calls.

tech "kept" OU from driving a lot (whether fouling or not who knows) but we didn't...and as soon as the tech guy got in the lane deep we'd get called for a foul.

Did that lose the game? well, it didn't help. They shot 22 Ft made 18. If they shot the 14 of the final 15 Ft's that means they were only at 8 for 2/3rd's of the game.
 
I want to play these pricks in KC when we are at full strength again. I like our chances.
 
Let’s take care of ISU as we should, get Reaves and Williams back into form, and then I cannot wait for Baylor next Wed.


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We were not at our best, so I'm proud of the guys for keeping it close and fighting till the end.

Harmon had a rough night -- 12 points on 4-of-15 shooting, 0-for-6 from deep, 1 assist, 2 rebounds, a turnover and 2 steals. I'm not trying to single him out, but with Reaves out, we needed him to have a strong outing and he didn't. Could have been a very different game if we'd had Austin tonight (and Williams too would have contributed).

We were oddly hesitant to shoot at times tonight. If I had a dollar for every shot we almost took but didn't (thereby giving their defense that much more time to close in), drinks would be on me. I know good defense can get in a team's head, but I think our hesitancy amounted to us giving in to them.

Kevin Henry had an interesting point during the radio broadcast: Tech ls long but not especially fast or quick, and we took a lot of midrange and deep shots tonight, which plays into their strength. How many shots did they alter? Not full blocks, just a fingertip or two? I lost count, but it was plenty. But unlike Tech, we couldn't get a whistle when we drove it to the basket, which arguably kind of forced our hand.

I was not counting on a win tonight -- I was half-expecting a loss -- but man, if we'd had Reaves (at full strength, with no rust), I think it would have been a very different outcome. I think we were fatigued at times tonight, and Reaves and Williams could have made a huge difference in that regard, if no other.
 
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On the officiating tip: Give any defensive-minded team a free pass for nearly half the game (Tech didn't get whistled for a foul until 16 minutes into the game), and you are giving them a huge head start. Call a tight game and a defensively oriented team has to adjust accordingly; that can really take them out of their rhythm. Conversely, give them a free pass on defense for the first 16 minutes of the game? They will be in a freaking groove. That's what OU had to contend with tonight.

The official named Higgins was absurdly bad tonight. Toby Rowland and Henry were dogging on him all night. Blatant fouls were occurring right in front of him and he steadfastly refused to blow his whistle. OU was the beneficiary of at least a couple of his non-calls but if I had to guess -- I didn't keep count -- Tech probably came out well ahead from him taking the night off.

OU still had its shots at winning the game and on another night or with a full roster, we would have, but as some have already said, pretending officiating never plays a role in deciding the outcome is just silly.
 
skyvue said:
On the officiating tip: Give any defensive-minded team a free pass for nearly half the game (Tech didn't get whistled for a foul until 16 minutes into the game), and you are giving them a huge head start. Call a tight game and a defensively oriented team has to adjust accordingly; that can really take them out of their rhythm. Conversely, give them a free pass on defense for the first 16 minutes of the game? They will be in a freaking groove. That's what OU had to contend with tonight.

The official named Higgins was absurdly bad tonight. Toby Rowland and Henry were dogging on him all night. Blatant fouls were occurring right in front of him and he steadfastly refused to blow his whistle. OU was the beneficiary of at least a couple of his non-calls but if I had to guess -- I didn't keep count -- Tech probably came out well ahead from him taking the night off.

OU still had its shots at winning the game and on another night or with a full roster, we would have, but as some have already said, pretending officiating never plays a role in deciding the outcome is just silly.
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I'm seldom happy when Higgins is one of the officials. Our guys certainly spent a lot of time on the floor under the basket. But we never saw a replay showing how they got there except when Harkless cramped up.
 
skyvue said:
We were not at our best, so I'm proud of the guys for keeping it close and fighting till the end.

Harmon had a rough night -- 12 points on 4-of-15 shooting, 0-for-6 from deep, 1 assist, 2 rebounds, a turnover and 2 steals. I'm not trying to single him out, but with Reaves out, we needed him to have a strong outing and he didn't. Could have been a very different game if we'd had Austin tonight (and Williams too would have contributed).

We were oddly hesitant to shoot at times tonight. If I had a dollar for every shot we almost took but didn't (thereby giving their defense that much more time to close in), drinks would be on me. I know good defense can get in a team's head, but I think our hesitancy amounted giving in to them.

Kevin Henry had an interesting point during the radio broadcast: Tech ls long but not especially fast or quick, and we took a lot of midrange and deep shots tonight, which plays into their strength. How many shots did they alter? Not full blocks, just a fingertip or two? I lost count, but it was plenty. But unlike Tech, we couldn't get a whistle when we drove it to the basket, which arguably kind of forced our hand.

I was not counting on a win tonight -- I was half-expecting a loss -- but man, if we'd had Reaves (at full strength, with no rust), I think it would have been a very different outcome. I think we were fatigued at times tonight, and Reaves and Williams could have made a huge different in that regard, if no other.
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Agree with almost everything here. Gibson in particular seems to be hesitant to shoot unless he is absolutely wide open. He isn’t tall or overly athletic, but he is a good enough shooter that he shouldn’t feel like he needs to be wide open to shoot.

Reaves obviously would have helped a ton, but I also think Williams would have been a huge help. Someone posted on this thread that Tech is more athletic than OU, and I very much disagree if we are at full strength. Williams is still inconsistent but is a great athlete and has the ability to go by his man and get his own shot.

We just need to make sure to get back on the winning track Saturday. I hate that Tech swept us. Tonight was an uphill battle given our roster situation, but the home loss in December is the one that really hurts. It’s crazy how good this league is ... we are a legit top ten team and have been playing great, yet we aren’t that far ahead of the seventh place team in the standings. Can’t let this loss linger!
 
I have been impressed by how the team has fought. Sometimes in the past few years there hasn't been a lot of toughness. But it sure seems to be there this year!

Texas Tech is also very tough, and grit can only get you so far if you don't have quite as much talent. It seemed that OU was able to out-tough Alabama, but not Texas Tech. To be expected, I guess.

I think these few games without two starters will really help the team understand what needs to be done to win tough games in March. I think it will be nothing but a blessing long term!
 
Well.... Mcclung went 0-7 from the field and scored 6 points (all on free throws)... Harkless played a team high 38 minutes.

Just barely couldn't get enough offense for the win. Of course didn't have Williams or Reaves.

OU is the better team here, just short-handed.
 
thebigabd said:
Well.... Mcclung went 0-7 from the field and scored 6 points (all on free throws)... Harkless played a team high 38 minutes.

Just barely couldn't get enough offense for the win. Of course didn't have Williams or Reaves.

OU is the better team here, just short-handed.
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Yep, but does that apply to the Texas game?
 
skyvue said:
We were not at our best, so I'm proud of the guys for keeping it close and fighting till the end.

Harmon had a rough night -- 12 points on 4-of-15 shooting, 0-for-6 from deep, 1 assist, 2 rebounds, a turnover and 2 steals. I'm not trying to single him out, but with Reaves out, we needed him to have a strong outing and he didn't. Could have been a very different game if we'd had Austin tonight (and Williams too would have contributed).
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Sky, the first two paragraphs in your post says it all for me. With Reaves and Williams out we needed a major contribution from Harmon but didn’t get it. His 0-6 from three was especially telling because those misses did nothing to force Tech to adjust their defense to stop him.

OU is a deep team, on defense. We’re not deep enough on offense to overcome the absence of two starters and a third who is off of his usual game. Jalen is capable offensively, but his 3-11 (0-2 from three) performance didn’t put much pressure on Tech’s defense. Vic and Kur were essentially no shows on offense. That allowed Tech to focus their attention on Brady, Gibson and Harmon. They knew going in they could play off of Hill and Harkless to some extent to stop the other three.

This is a good OU team. We’re just not good enough or deep enough to beat a solid, well coached team like Texas Tech when two key players are missing in action. Reaves and Williams are starting for a reason. Harmon can play the point. But we all saw what happens when a good Big 12 team with a lengthy scouting report takes him out of his game. I, for one, will be glad to see our starting lineup back in full force on Saturday!
 
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