March Madness and Covid-19

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I know for an absolute FACT that steverocks knows what he is talking about and anyone who thinks otherwise is purely daft and/or delusional on the subject. Now you can all try to ride the fringe on definitions and differences in studies or whatever little niche you wish to scratch for your little exception - but what he's saying is 100% accurate and not jaded like 3/4 of this other crap. namaste
 
coolm said:
I know for an absolute FACT that steverocks knows what he is talking about and anyone who thinks otherwise is purely daft and/or delusional on the subject. Now you can all try to ride the fringe on definitions and differences in studies or whatever little niche you wish to scratch for your little exception - but what he's saying is 100% accurate and not jaded like 3/4 of this other crap. namaste
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That sounds a lot more like opinion than fact.
 
coolm said:
I know for an absolute FACT that steverocks knows what he is talking about and anyone who thinks otherwise is purely daft and/or delusional on the subject. Now you can all try to ride the fringe on definitions and differences in studies or whatever little niche you wish to scratch for your little exception - but what he's saying is 100% accurate and not jaded like 3/4 of this other crap. namaste
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The problem is he takes some little facts, mixes in a bunch of his opinion, and presents the entire thing as fact.

A lot like the media.
 
Eielson said:
What is the argument for keeping everything shut down while the hospitals are under capacity? I thought the whole idea was that we needed to "flatten the curve" so that hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed? Flattening the curve was never about reducing total infections; it was about spreading them out. Treatments may improve, but that vaccine isn't coming anytime soon -- my bet is that we won't have an effective, safe vaccine until there isn't a major need.

Business/lives have to resume at some point. As I have stated from the beginning, if the economy crashes, coronavirus will not be the only thing taking lives.
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This is exactly correct. Also, cases in Oklahoma are trending down, not up as some would have you believe. We have flattened the curve, that doesn’t mean there won’t be any more infections. Also, hospitals are going to start laying off thousands of people if we don’t get the census up and have something to do. ICUs are mostly empty. ORs are empty. Hell, even a lot of ERs are much slower than normal. We can’t keep the country shutdown. We have to proceed with life and use common sense and do the best we can with what resources are available.
 
WTSooner said:
The problem is he takes some little facts, mixes in a bunch of his opinion, and presents the entire thing as fact.

A lot like the media.
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Exactly! I stopped reading the articles he posted when his interpretation didn’t line up with the facts in the published piece. When it happened more than once, I lost interest.
 
This really made me laugh. I leave for a few hours and come back and there are all these opinions about me. Okay, let me clarify some things. Have I given my opinion several times? Yes. I don't understand how you can't tell the difference between my opinions and facts. The problem is that the situation is constantly changing and the facts on the ground are changing as well. What I said 3 weeks ago or a month ago may not be true now, but it was my best evaluation based on what was known at the time. I also said that as you flatten the curve and take active measures like distancing and shutting down businesses it will look more and more like you over-reacted. That's because what you're doing is working! That's why I don't think you should stop doing what is working just because certain people are impatient or they have political motives. The second wave of the 1918-19 pandemic, after controls were relaxed and things went "back to normal" was more deadly than the first wave, THIS IS A FACT. If we "open back up" too quickly, more people will die and the economy will be worse than it would have if we had just stayed the course, IN MY OPINION. I think you should err on the side of fewer dead people, but that's JUST MY OPINION. (Is that better labeling so you guys don't get so upset?)
 
coolm said:
I know for an absolute FACT that steverocks knows what he is talking about and anyone who thinks otherwise is purely daft and/or delusional on the subject. Now you can all try to ride the fringe on definitions and differences in studies or whatever little niche you wish to scratch for your little exception - but what he's saying is 100% accurate and not jaded like 3/4 of this other crap. namaste
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Thanks!
 
Not sure about your comments. If you listen to the whole presentation she noteS that the graphs are running totals and that they will never go down. They will only flatten when you have zero new cases.
 
AdaSooner said:
Some of us stopped taking you seriously several weeks ago. It should be obvious to everyone by now you’re an arrogant, egotistical, self-appointed “expert” who craves attention.

Negative news is an attention-getter. That’s why you never show up when there is something positive to report, and you danged sure don’t post it. Case in point: the decline in Covid patients in Oklahoma sheepdogs1 reported earlier this week. If the outlook on this virus improves, it would be a mistake to depend on you to report the news.
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Right on Ada. Admittedly, I posted the PA article, in part, to bait Mr. Rocks. To everyone's shock and surprise, he swallowed it like a starving fish.

Mr. Rocks is a predictable doomsdayer being played by several posters on this board like a fiddle in The Charlie Daniels Band.

Look Mr. Rocks, some of what you post appears to come from a well-educated and informed standpoint. You have posted your education level and I have no reason to believe any different.

You have also posted your role during this pandemic. I genuinely thank you for your what you are doing during this time.

However, as far as I'm concerned, Ada is right. You deliberately come across as the prototypical "smartest guy in the room." You have a political agenda, as do most. You intentionally seek out posts to disagree with and you do it with a poor attitude.

The article I posted about PA screwing up the death numbers is getting national attention now. Looks like others are just as skeptical as many here in PA are about the tallying of the numbers.
 
BoulderSooner said:
chicom is from the 60's 70's and 80's (especially in the intel and military community) not from "rush"

and is now absolutely considered not PC
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I heard it from "rush". In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not remotely PC. PC is lazy and a product of miseducation.

I am not “pc” either. Was just pointing out the origin and the current accepted thinking
 
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steverocks35 said:
By the way, 4/24/2020 set a record daily high for new Covid-19 cases in the United States. 38,958 new cases. 1,959 new deaths, which is not a record. It looks like we are going to surpass 60,000 deaths by May 1st.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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60,000 deaths is horrible! But it’s still a long way from the 150,000 to 250,000 predicted early on. It should also be noted that three states (New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts) make up almost half of that number.
 
AdaSooner said:
60,000 deaths is horrible! But it’s still a long way from the 150,000 to 250,000 predicted early on. It should also be noted that three states (New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts) make up almost half of that number.
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I don't think that last bit of info is getting enough play. On here or with the media.

You take away a couple of those areas, and a few of the big nursing home outbreaks, and this thing starts to look A LOT different for 95% of the country.

Even moreseo if you attribute some of Florida and LA to Spring Break and Mardi Gras.
 
WTSooner said:
I don't think that last bit of info is getting enough play. On here or with the media.

You take away a couple of those areas, and a few of the big nursing home outbreaks, and this thing starts to look A LOT different for 95% of the country.

Even moreseo if you attribute some of Florida and LA to Spring Break and Mardi Gras.
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I couldn’t agree more, WT! As testing has increased nationwide there is more and more evidence that a high percentage of people who were infected had little or no symptoms. That is not to downplay the severity and even death for people in my age group. But, it’s easy to see why working class citizens in a growing number of locations are not happy right now. .
 
AdaSooner said:
60,000 deaths is horrible! But it’s still a long way from the 150,000 to 250,000 predicted early on. It should also be noted that three states (New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts) make up almost half of that number.
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Right but its only been 3 months.... Hopefully it doesn't get to the other number.
 
paboomersooner said:
I heard it from "rush". In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not remotely PC. PC is lazy and a product of miseducation.
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