I couldn't disagree more with that statement.
Of course you do.
I couldn't disagree more with that statement.
Good god you'll say anything to diminish Capel, anything.
You've already admitted that it takes more than one player for a team to be successful, now it is well, it wasn't any big deal to get said player, then well since you got him, other good players were sure to follow.
Pat Knight 2 41% -12.7%
We're the only school (and message board) that actually holds it against our Coach when we do something well with good players. When Sampson went to the Final Four, "ahh well it was just a good group of guys, and we had Hollis and Ace." When we rolled to three straight conference titles "oh but I mean guys just played well that weekend, and we had Hollis." Now when Capel goes 30-6, "well, he had Blake, it doesn't count."
We're the only school (and message board) that actually holds it against our Coach when we do something well with good players. When Sampson went to the Final Four, "ahh well it was just a good group of guys, and we had Hollis and Ace." When we rolled to three straight conference titles "oh but I mean guys just played well that weekend, and we had Hollis." Now when Capel goes 30-6, "well, he had Blake, it doesn't count."
It's silly, embarrassing, and moronic.
Knight. And how long does Sadler and McDermont have to get to the NCAA Tournament at their present school? Infinite? Since they are at Nebraska and Iowa State, it doesn't matter if they win? So here we go again with the impossibly ridiculous holding it against coach's to coach a certain place or having a certain player.
In this way he does remind me a little of Quin Snyder. Early success, a big time job, recruiting great talent. Then a year of underachieving and everyone starts to doubt you, not to mention off the court issues.
Let's just hope that Capel can pull things together unlike Snyder.
I can't help it if you have a tough time following the logical flow of a conversation.
Snyder had some other issues that Capel does not appear to have
Snyder had some other issues that Capel does not appear to have, not saying that the result won't be the same, but Snyder had lots of other stuff going on.
Interesting side thought, if Quinn Snyder had never coached in the Big 12, would people be so quick to be down on Capel? Bet Capel is wishing that Quinn had coached anywhere else and not been a player at Duke either.
True...Capel doesn't do cocaine.
I said (or meant) I don't think Blake made a huge leap and I don't. I think he improved. But I mostly think OU was much better at getting him the ball and he was much more confident in what he could do. I don't think his game changed that much. Blake was outstanding from day one in my opinion.
If he was outstanding from day one, why did he only average 14 and 9? He wasn't as much part of the offense (i.e. shot attempts) because he was still raw. And yes, his game did greatly change. Go look back at the tape his freshman year as opposed to his sophomore year. Comparing his moves and footwork from year 1 to year 2 is night and day. His field goal percentage vastly improved as well.
Bottom line, Capel deserves a lot of credit for BG's transformation. If Capel had nothing to do with it, BG would have been an all world player from the get-go. But he wasn't. Did other individuals help BG's development? Of course. But one of the significant ones without a doubt is Capel.
Your joking right? 14 and 9 is off the chart.
Blake Griffin was all-world from day one. Capel did a great job but your not a well informed basketball fan if you don't think Blake Griffin was outstanding from day one.
I honestly, I never watched Blake Griffin's footwork. I was typically focusing on him ripping the rim off the back board.
14 and 9 is very good. "Off the chart?" Come on, don't fool yourself to make a false point. 22 and 14 is off the chart.
Your joking right? 14 and 9 is off the chart.
Blake Griffin was all-world from day one. Capel did a great job but your not a well informed basketball fan if you don't think Blake Griffin was outstanding from day one.
I honestly, I never watched Blake Griffin's footwork. I was typically focusing on him ripping the rim off the back board.
Dude... really? "Very good...?"
14 and 9 is a "very good" average for a junior/senior post player in this league.... for a true freshman post man to put up those numbers is sick.
Craig Brackins, who is a 3-year junior starter, averages 16 and 8.
Damian James, a SENIOR, averages 17 and 10.
Blake putting up those numbers as a true freshman was incredible.
Obviously, his numbers last year were off-the-chart, first-pick-in-the-NBA-draft good.
That could be part of the problem [kidding!].
Seriously thought camp, I'l ask you because I appreciate you perspective, if there had never been a Quinn Snyder to compare him to, think people would be so worried about Capel? If I am Jeff I am WORN out on that angle, real worn out...it is like some dude that went to the same high school I went to and played basketball under the same coach went to prison, and I am suddenly guilty by association.
Dude... really? "Very good...?"
14 and 9 is a "very good" average for a junior/senior post player in this league.... for a true freshman post man to put up those numbers is sick.
Craig Brackins, who is a 3-year junior starter, averages 16 and 8.
Damian James, a SENIOR, averages 17 and 10.
Blake putting up those numbers as a true freshman was incredible.
Obviously, his numbers last year were off-the-chart, first-pick-in-the-NBA-draft good.
Thank you! 14 and 9 as a freshman is off the chart. Andrew Fitzgerald has had a nice freshman season (he got minutes, scored some points and will clearly be solid player by his junior year). Tiny Gallon has had a good freshman season.