Saying you can commit a crime (assault and battery) against a person because they committed a misdemeanor seems like really bad logic to me.
If a fan pushes, threatens or punches a player, I think they should defend themselves but if a fan storms the court and happens to innocently bump a player, the player shouldn't use that as excuse to punch someone because they are angry about a loss. Would the player really punch someone in another crowd situation? I doubt it.
storming the court should not be allowed until the opposing team is in the locker room. period.
In the scenario you described, I would agree. However, I am not about to reward a fan for bad behavior by instigating any type of confrontation with a player, and expect the player to be suspended if he decides to punch him. Otherwise, it will be open-season on players...fans can have contests to see if they can get a player suspended for a game or two.
That said, I can't condone punching a fan when that fan was simply guilty of stupidity for rushing onto the court. However, I would make the fines against the school so large that they will take it upon themselves to make sure storming the court does not happen.
Takes the fun out of it. I understand why you say this, but telling people to wait to storm kind of defeats the purpose
The opposing teams just need to high tail it out of there right at the buzzer
yes. As soon as it is apparant that the fans are going to rush the court, you run off the court.Are you saying to ditch the line of handshakes?
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AdaSooner;590473 An incident several years ago will support my claim. When David Godbold said:And you can be against what David Godbold did and still support David Godbold as a person. You could even advocate for light punishment and still be against the action itself. It was out of character, wrong and a mistake. To my knowledge he never did anything like it before or after that incident.
Interesting. I don’t think of it as taking something away. I think of it as punishing a team for doing something they should have never been doing. How are you going to get the away team off the court fast if they just missed a game tying shot on the opposite end of the tunnel?
I agree with you that it is fun for students but I remember doing a lot of stupid things as a student that were fun at the time.
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And you can be against what David Godbold did and still support David Godbold as a person. You could even advocate for light punishment and still be against the action itself. It was out of character, wrong and a mistake. To my knowledge he never did anything like it before or after that incident.
I concur. Fine the schools in the $100,000 range and they will control it. It all else fails the schools can video the crowd, identify the students and ban them from attending future games. Students are adults and should act adults or suffer the consequences.
storming the court should not be allowed until the opposing team is in the locker room. period.
Wow
Let me guess, you sit at football games
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Sit some, stand alot but I have been in GFOMS for virtually all of the home games for 57 years. Most of the basketball games for 25 years.
When were you in the stands last?
Sit some, stand alot but I have been in GFOMS for virtually all of the home games for 57 years. Most of the basketball games for 25 years.
When were you in the stands last?
Well you confirmed my suspicions...you are too far removed from being a student. What you suggested would royally suck. Ban students that rush the court?
Its been several years since I've gone but I've had 4 kids in 7 years.
Obviously the university was fined because of the safety to individuals is threatened when fans rush the court. Fans rushing the court is a form of a mob wherein individuals do things within the autonomous auspices of said mob that they as individuals would never do. They are young men and women not kids and must be held to discipline standards required of the university.
Should the student fail to adhere to the ban on rushing the court and endangering others then a ban on them attending the game is more than appropriate. Do as you are told or face the consequences. Taking a please don't approach is foolery.
SoonerBounce, I'm guessing you aren't a lawyer . In today's litigious society, allowing students to rush the court is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I remember the University of South Carolina was fined $25K for their fans rushing the court after beating #1 Kentucky 7 years ago. The SEC now imposes $100,000 fines for those same actions. That's a pretty strong indication that we're moving very far away from allowing fans to rush the court.
I thought it was great when OU fans did the same thing back in '95 after beating Kansas. I think we've only done it once since (2013 vs KU?). I remember back in 2003 when THREE schools did that after beating us (OSU, Texas and Missouri), so those weren't much fun. Regardless, I just think this is slowly becoming a thing of the past.