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i would give this guy a call ..
Man, that is a good list. (You are a hero @StoopsBros)for humor's sake...
SB VERY HYPOTHETICAL HOT BOARD
(too early? I don't care)
Main candidate list....
Or the coaches I'd do extensive research on/contact
no real order...except as they pop into my head
Amir Abdur-Rahim (South Florida)
It might be too early for AAR to get the OU job but damn, this guy seems like a really good coach. Another way to say it? He's high on my list and would be a great 3rd or 4th option. USF plays a fun style of basketball. I'd take AAR over Kellen and it's not particularly close.
Will Wade (McNeese State)
It's a hypothetical list so why not....I'd hire Wade, for sure. I don't give a single **** about the LSU stuff. The guy has won 22+ games (in a season) at Chattanooga, VCU, LSU, and now lowly McNeese State. Unlike Moser, Wade knows how to fill a roster (immediately) with talent no matter the conference. Legally, illegally. Unfortunately, Wade isn't likely a guy Joe C would hire.
Kyle Smith (Washington State)
For starters, the last head coach OU hired away from Washington State worked out well (until, you know, texts and Indiana). Which of course means it would happen again, lol. Smith has produced winners at three programs that are tough to win at - Wazzu, San Francisco, and Columbia. He flat-out knows how to coach. All that said, it doesn't feel like the greatest fit and he's already 54 years old. The OU job could turn into a serious (roster) rebuild and I have questions if Smith is the guy for it.
Kim English (Providence)
It's still so early in his career but I'm impressed. If you've ever heard Coach English talk, he just gets it. Very smart and charismatic personality. He took over a tough job post-Ed Cooley being a bitch and has had them playing pretty well despite the season ending injury to arguably their best player (Bryce Hopkins). As far as fit, English, as most remember, played at Mizzou. He's also coached at Tulsa, Colorado, and Tennessee as an assistant. Basically, I think English is the type who could work out almost anywhere (East coast guy but has been all over the map).
Mark Pope (BYU)
I have no idea what his salary is or what his buyout would be. But...BYU might play my favorite brand of basketball in CBB right now. They are a fun team. They don't have a wealth of elite talent but are competitive. I'd very much be interested in Pope coming to OU. The issue is...he's in his happy place it seems and I doubt he'd leave...so this is more of a hypothetical.
Further down the list: Drew Valentine (Loyola), Josh Schertz (Indiana State), Danny Sprinkle (Utah State), Darian DeVries (Drake), Brian Wardle (Bradley), Dustin Kerns (Appalachian State), Mark Byington (James Madison), Scott Cross (Troy), Takayo Siddle (UNC Wilmington), Jerod Haase (Stanford), Bryce Drew (Grand Canyon), Wes Miller (Cincinnati).
Brief synopsis on each...
Valentine - tapping the Loyola well again? Risky and I think Valentine still has to win some games in the tourney, or he'll need to stay another year at Loyola, but eh, he's young and his trajectory looks brighter than Moser's. I could see a school take the risk earlier than one would assume. DePaul should be clamoring for the guy but no one will accuse DePaul of making smart decisions.
Schertz - he's won at two levels but I want to see how he does in his conference tourney/NCAA tourney
Sprinkle - has never left the West and seems destined for Washington. Otherwise, he did a hell of job filling the USU roster and winning in a tough conference
DeVries - from the McDermott tree. Can coach but has only had success at one place
Wardle - this is a guy most haven't heard of but he knows how to coach basketball. Only 44 y/o.
Kerns - could propel himself into the main 4-5 with a nice conference/NCAA run. I'm impressed with his style of play/resume
Byington - has done a fantastic job at James Madison but he's an East coast guy and seems to be odds-on favorite to land the WVU job
Cross - another guy who's not a buzzworthy/known name but has strong ties in Texas. He's been at UT Arlington and now Troy. Has found success at both and those aren't exactly easy programs to win at. But he's way, way down my list.
Siddle - young coach (only 37). He's only been a HC for 4 years but in those 4 years? Three seasons over 20 wins. East coast guy. NC State should think about axing Keatts to grab this (potential) star. Maybe next year if no one scoops up Siddle.
Haase - weird inclusion, I know. He's about to get fired from Stanford...but he had success at UAB, can recruit his ass off, and might find success at his next stop. A change of scenery could work for him. Stanford is a tough job. For what it's worth, he's very far down the list. Former KU player/assistant.
Drew - he failed at Vanderbilt but it's hard to ignore his basketball pedigree and successes at Valparaiso &/or Grand Canyon. He'd be far down the list but worth a look.
Miller - he's a good coach but hasn't completely gotten Cincy back to where they want to be. They're a tough ass team though.
Not listing assistants because I don't think that's smart heading into the SEC.
Others I'd call and make them say no but are very, very, very, very unlikely....
You could say StoopsBros' Dream List
Mark Few (Gonzaga)
Yeah, not happening but did you know Few only makes $2M per year? Offer him $4-5M per and make him say no.
Greg McDermott (Creighton)
Same thought process as Few, McDermott only makes $2M ish per year. Offer him $4-5M per and see what happens. There are contract talk rumors though so it looks like Creighton will increase his salary. Thanks Ohio State.
Dusty May (Florida Atlantic)
He's down here because he'll end up elsewhere either because of the timing/a "better" program came calling. Otherwise, he would be a top 3 choice for me. Trending towards being the next Ohio State coach. Thank Lebron James.
Chris Beard (Ole Miss)
He's here because his past likely prevents Joe C from having him anywhere near his call list but damn, Beard is a really good coach. The rumors are, he's already looking for his next stop, and could land at several options like Arkansas. This year or next. Eh, it's tough. A guy who can coach but is a **** human. Man.
Grant McCasland (Texas Tech)
Tech supports basketball better than OU right now and it doesn't seem likely that 1) he'd leave Tech or 2) OU would pay anywhere close to what it would take to get him to leave (best guess without looking - $6-7M buyout + a salary increase to $4-5M). But I would at least look into the idea.
Please God, no. Don't ****ing do it Joe C...
Kellen Sampson (Houston assistant/HCIW)
Kellen is cool and all, I like him as a person, and it's a nice story but he has never been a head coach. Personally, I think OU's basketball program is better than a junior varsity hire like this. As they head into a new conference, you absolutely need to find something you'd label as more of a guarantee. JMO.
Buzz Williams (Texas A&M)
As others have said, several years ago, I would have been okay with Buzz at OU. But looking at his history, including his time at A&M, he's just very meh to me now. If the choice became Buzz or Kellen, I'd take Buzz but there are much better candidates out there who seem more committed to program building and winning.
Quannas White/Hollis Price/any other former OU player who has never been more than an assistant
PLEASE STOP LISTING THEM AS HEAD COACH CANDIDATES. Thanks, management.
Bobby Hurley (Arizona State)
There's nothing that points to this being a reality but...there are rumors he's looking to parachute out of Tempe. This is gross to admit as an OU fan, on an OU message board, but I also moonlight as a Duke fan (I'm from the South originally). Or at least I used to be (don't follow them as religiously as OU these days post-Coach K). Hurley is one of my top Duke players ever but as a coach, I think he's pretty average and OU, hypothetically, feels like an awful fit.
Kevin Kruger (UNLV)
Not that it's likely at all but keep Kruger Jr away from OU. The Runnin' Rebels are playing much better now, against the weaker MWC teams, but UNLV isn't going to be dancing unless they win the MWC tourney. Year 3 and zero tourney berths at UNLV, a program committed to basketball? Yeah, no thanks. He's probably the one guy I'd hire Kellen over.
is there ever DePaul buzz of any kind in Chicago??Still ZERO buzz here in Chicago about Porter Moser to DePaul. Trilly is literally the only person spouting any of this. I have not read up on this Trilly guy, but what connection does he have to Porter or DePaul? Because the people I know who are connected to both think there's a less than 1% chance it's true from either end.
Kind of surprisingCoaching and HALF-TIME adjusting...I see some candidates that were mentioned above...
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McNeese St there... (Dusty May, Kyle Smith, and McCasland up there as well)
I mean when we fall coming out of the gates our 2nd halves are destined to be better right?Kind of surprising
I do not cosign this message. I want more experience.If Porter does leave, I wouldn't be opposed to hiring someone like Kellen or even a guy like Luke Barnwell who is an assistant at Texas Tech. He was HC at Sunrise Christian for the last few years and I would assume that he would have some great recruiting ties. For me personally, I am less concerned about X's and O's and more concerned about getting the Jimmies and Joes. I think we are going to have to think outside of the box for the next hire. But I definitely trust Joe C and whichever direction that he wants to take us. He doesn't miss on many hires.
Agreed but I won't knock anyone for their opinion(s).I do not cosign this message. I want more experience.
Im personally prolly more on the coaching vs. Raw talent side (bc at ou we prolly wont be getting the best jims and joes Often)
I talk to a lot of people who are around the program and I've been digging a little since this Porter rumor came out.is there ever DePaul buzz of any kind in Chicago??
Realistically, Will.Wade fits the bill if Joe C turns a blind eye about the LSU stuff. Filling a roster seemed to be a struggle for Moser for some guys that got brought in on the team that never sniffed playing time.for humor's sake...
SB VERY HYPOTHETICAL HOT BOARD
(too early? I don't care)
Main candidate list....
Or the coaches I'd do extensive research on/contact
no real order...except as they pop into my head
Amir Abdur-Rahim (South Florida)
It might be too early for AAR to get the OU job but damn, this guy seems like a really good coach. Another way to say it? He's high on my list and would be a great 3rd or 4th option. USF plays a fun style of basketball. I'd take AAR over Kellen and it's not particularly close.
Will Wade (McNeese State)
It's a hypothetical list so why not....I'd hire Wade, for sure. I don't give a single **** about the LSU stuff. The guy has won 22+ games (in a season) at Chattanooga, VCU, LSU, and now lowly McNeese State. Unlike Moser, Wade knows how to fill a roster (immediately) with talent no matter the conference. Legally, illegally. Unfortunately, Wade isn't likely a guy Joe C would hire.
Kyle Smith (Washington State)
For starters, the last head coach OU hired away from Washington State worked out well (until, you know, texts and Indiana). Which of course means it would happen again, lol. Smith has produced winners at three programs that are tough to win at - Wazzu, San Francisco, and Columbia. He flat-out knows how to coach. All that said, it doesn't feel like the greatest fit and he's already 54 years old. The OU job could turn into a serious (roster) rebuild and I have questions if Smith is the guy for it.
Kim English (Providence)
It's still so early in his career but I'm impressed. If you've ever heard Coach English talk, he just gets it. Very smart and charismatic personality. He took over a tough job post-Ed Cooley being a bitch and has had them playing pretty well despite the season ending injury to arguably their best player (Bryce Hopkins). As far as fit, English, as most remember, played at Mizzou. He's also coached at Tulsa, Colorado, and Tennessee as an assistant. Basically, I think English is the type who could work out almost anywhere (East coast guy but has been all over the map).
Mark Pope (BYU)
I have no idea what his salary is or what his buyout would be. But...BYU might play my favorite brand of basketball in CBB right now. They are a fun team. They don't have a wealth of elite talent but are competitive. I'd very much be interested in Pope coming to OU. The issue is...he's in his happy place it seems and I doubt he'd leave...so this is more of a hypothetical.
Further down the list: Drew Valentine (Loyola), Josh Schertz (Indiana State), Danny Sprinkle (Utah State), Darian DeVries (Drake), Brian Wardle (Bradley), Dustin Kerns (Appalachian State), Mark Byington (James Madison), Scott Cross (Troy), Takayo Siddle (UNC Wilmington), Jerod Haase (Stanford), Bryce Drew (Grand Canyon), Wes Miller (Cincinnati).
Brief synopsis on each...
Valentine - tapping the Loyola well again? Risky and I think Valentine still has to win some games in the tourney, or he'll need to stay another year at Loyola, but eh, he's young and his trajectory looks brighter than Moser's. I could see a school take the risk earlier than one would assume. DePaul should be clamoring for the guy but no one will accuse DePaul of making smart decisions.
Schertz - he's won at two levels but I want to see how he does in his conference tourney/NCAA tourney
Sprinkle - has never left the West and seems destined for Washington. Otherwise, he did a hell of job filling the USU roster and winning in a tough conference
DeVries - from the McDermott tree. Can coach but has only had success at one place
Wardle - this is a guy most haven't heard of but he knows how to coach basketball. Only 44 y/o.
Kerns - could propel himself into the main 4-5 with a nice conference/NCAA run. I'm impressed with his style of play/resume
Byington - has done a fantastic job at James Madison but he's an East coast guy and seems to be odds-on favorite to land the WVU job
Cross - another guy who's not a buzzworthy/known name but has strong ties in Texas. He's been at UT Arlington and now Troy. Has found success at both and those aren't exactly easy programs to win at. But he's way, way down my list.
Siddle - young coach (only 37). He's only been a HC for 4 years but in those 4 years? Three seasons over 20 wins. East coast guy. NC State should think about axing Keatts to grab this (potential) star. Maybe next year if no one scoops up Siddle.
Haase - weird inclusion, I know. He's about to get fired from Stanford...but he had success at UAB, can recruit his ass off, and might find success at his next stop. A change of scenery could work for him. Stanford is a tough job. For what it's worth, he's very far down the list. Former KU player/assistant.
Drew - he failed at Vanderbilt but it's hard to ignore his basketball pedigree and successes at Valparaiso &/or Grand Canyon. He'd be far down the list but worth a look.
Miller - he's a good coach but hasn't completely gotten Cincy back to where they want to be. They're a tough ass team though.
Not listing assistants because I don't think that's smart heading into the SEC.
Others I'd call and make them say no but are very, very, very, very unlikely....
You could say StoopsBros' Dream List
Mark Few (Gonzaga)
Yeah, not happening but did you know Few only makes $2M per year? Offer him $4-5M per and make him say no.
Greg McDermott (Creighton)
Same thought process as Few, McDermott only makes $2M ish per year. Offer him $4-5M per and see what happens. There are contract talk rumors though so it looks like Creighton will increase his salary. Thanks Ohio State.
Dusty May (Florida Atlantic)
He's down here because he'll end up elsewhere either because of the timing/a "better" program came calling. Otherwise, he would be a top 3 choice for me. Trending towards being the next Ohio State coach. Thank Lebron James.
Chris Beard (Ole Miss)
He's here because his past likely prevents Joe C from having him anywhere near his call list but damn, Beard is a really good coach. The rumors are, he's already looking for his next stop, and could land at several options like Arkansas. This year or next. Eh, it's tough. A guy who can coach but is a **** human. Man.
Grant McCasland (Texas Tech)
Tech supports basketball better than OU right now and it doesn't seem likely that 1) he'd leave Tech or 2) OU would pay anywhere close to what it would take to get him to leave (best guess without looking - $6-7M buyout + a salary increase to $4-5M). But I would at least look into the idea.
Please God, no. Don't ****ing do it Joe C...
Kellen Sampson (Houston assistant/HCIW)
Kellen is cool and all, I like him as a person, and it's a nice story but he has never been a head coach. Personally, I think OU's basketball program is better than a junior varsity hire like this. As they head into a new conference, you absolutely need to find something you'd label as more of a guarantee. JMO.
Buzz Williams (Texas A&M)
As others have said, several years ago, I would have been okay with Buzz at OU. But looking at his history, including his time at A&M, he's just very meh to me now. If the choice became Buzz or Kellen, I'd take Buzz but there are much better candidates out there who seem more committed to program building and winning.
Quannas White/Hollis Price/any other former OU player who has never been more than an assistant
PLEASE STOP LISTING THEM AS HEAD COACH CANDIDATES. Thanks, management.
Bobby Hurley (Arizona State)
There's nothing that points to this being a reality but...there are rumors he's looking to parachute out of Tempe. This is gross to admit as an OU fan, on an OU message board, but I also moonlight as a Duke fan (I'm from the South originally). Or at least I used to be (don't follow them as religiously as OU these days post-Coach K). Hurley is one of my top Duke players ever but as a coach, I think he's pretty average and OU, hypothetically, feels like an awful fit.
Kevin Kruger (UNLV)
Not that it's likely at all but keep Kruger Jr away from OU. The Runnin' Rebels are playing much better now, against the weaker MWC teams, but UNLV isn't going to be dancing unless they win the MWC tourney. Year 3 and zero tourney berths at UNLV, a program committed to basketball? Yeah, no thanks. He's probably the one guy I'd hire Kellen over.
I'm not sure why you'd turn a blind eye to the LSU stuff. Also, I know that someone close to the program coached with Wade earlier in his career and Wade was slimy as hell then, too.Realistically, Will.Wade fits the bill if Joe C turns a blind eye about the LSU stuff. Filling a roster seemed to be a struggle for Moser for some guys that got brought in on the team that never sniffed playing time.
I just can’t see Joe C hiring him. Don’t think he will be the one to turn a blind eye to any type of bad character historyRealistically, Will.Wade fits the bill if Joe C turns a blind eye about the LSU stuff. Filling a roster seemed to be a struggle for Moser for some guys that got brought in on the team that never sniffed playing time.