Good point. We may be boosting his stock a bit much based on this mcneese state team's record.. heck, morter poser might have thrown up that record in the southland or whatever conference mcneese is.
Honestly mav's post above yours has swayed me more than your post. I think wade is a bit of fool's gold (which the topic is just for fun anyway bc were stuck with our guy...)
Not being a Jerk, but you say "here's why" like the stats you then provided changed the W/L records for those years and make them look better. Nothing in those stats screams that he is a homerun hire or that he will push for 25+ win seasons/top half of conference finishes consistently at OU.
I don't favor hiring him because of the obvious reasons, but you can't just look at his wins compared to PM without considering what each program had been like in the years before they were hired. And you also need to look at their full track records -- as we all know, Moser had two really good years and a lot of very poor ones in his very long career before coming here.Not being a Jerk, but you say "here's why" like the stats you then provided changed the W/L records for those years and make them look better. Nothing in those stats screams that he is a homerun hire or that he will push for 25+ win seasons/top half of conference finishes consistently at OU.
Moser's first 3 years at OU he won 19, 15 and 20 games.
Wade's last 3 years at LSU (year's 3-5) he won 21, 19 and 22 games (at a conf that was at least slightly worse than Moser's conf on paper). And either didn't make the tourney or lost in the 1st or 2nd round.
I'm not saying the guy is a bad coach, I just don't see him as the guy that's going to bust the door's down at OU when he walks in and take the program to new heights.
Keep in mind, Wade was also getting these results with actions that eventually got him fired....
As hoops said, this is more for fun anyway and who knows, maybe after another year at Mcneese and IF Moser is fired after next season, we could be having this debate after Wade is introduced as the next coach at OU
It is pretty apparent that Wade is great at quick turn arounds. That would be really hard to disagree with. He instantly improves teams in his first year and teams are worse after he leaves.Not being a Jerk, but you say "here's why" like the stats you then provided changed the W/L records for those years and make them look better. Nothing in those stats screams that he is a homerun hire or that he will push for 25+ win seasons/top half of conference finishes consistently at OU.
Moser's first 3 years at OU he won 19, 15 and 20 games.
Wade's last 3 years at LSU (year's 3-5) he won 21, 19 and 22 games (at a conf that was at least slightly worse than Moser's conf on paper). And either didn't make the tourney or lost in the 1st or 2nd round.
I'm not saying the guy is a bad coach, I just don't see him as the guy that's going to bust the door's down at OU when he walks in and take the program to new heights.
Keep in mind, Wade was also getting these results with actions that eventually got him fired....
As hoops said, this is more for fun anyway and who knows, maybe after another year at Mcneese and IF Moser is fired after next season, we could be having this debate after Wade is introduced as the next coach at OU
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No jerkiness (offense) taken. My response was merely a, "here is why people want him" He gets wins wherever he goes. We can debate the merit of his system/play at P5 programs and their relevance to Oklahoma's success. That is a good topic to address.Not being a Jerk, but you say "here's why" like the stats you then provided changed the W/L records for those years and make them look better. Nothing in those stats screams that he is a homerun hire or that he will push for 25+ win seasons/top half of conference finishes consistently at OU.
Moser's first 3 years at OU he won 19, 15 and 20 games.
Wade's last 3 years at LSU (year's 3-5) he won 21, 19 and 22 games (at a conf that was at least slightly worse than Moser's conf on paper). And either didn't make the tourney or lost in the 1st or 2nd round.
I'm not saying the guy is a bad coach, I just don't see him as the guy that's going to bust the door's down at OU when he walks in and take the program to new heights.
Keep in mind, Wade was also getting these results with actions that eventually got him fired....
As hoops said, this is more for fun anyway and who knows, maybe after another year at Mcneese and IF Moser is fired after next season, we could be having this debate after Wade is introduced as the next coach at OU
Plus, according to Trilly/rumors, Wade has some kind of self-NIL. I don't know if that's family money or what but the talk is he could pretty much pay NIL out of his own pocket.
Maybe we have so many portals because our team was informed Moser is taking the Arkansas job
my guess would be Beard
100% agree
sounds about right
