'24 Coaching Carousel Thread

This is what Trilly said about Muss/SMU...


Muss finessed this entire situation, starting with SMU.

So his sister is married to (or recently married) SMU's largest donor. He and the sister convinced the SMU donor to fire Lanier.

All the while, knowing Enfield has always had an affinity for Dallas and that he was on the hot seat, he apparently reached out to USC and told them he would come if they got rid of Enfield.

USC was either going to fire Enfield or push him to another job and when they called SMU to see if they were going to fire Lanier, they were obviously told it was happening.


Rob Lanier literally got fired because SMU got lied to.
 
StoopsBros said:
This is what Trilly said about Muss/SMU...


Muss finessed this entire situation, starting with SMU.

So his sister is married to (or recently married) SMU's largest donor. He and the sister convinced the SMU donor to fire Lanier.

All the while, knowing Enfield has always had an affinity for Dallas and that he was on the hot seat, he apparently reached out to USC and told them he would come if they got rid of Enfield.

USC was either going to fire Enfield or push him to another job and when they called SMU to see if they were going to fire Lanier, they were obviously told it was happening.


Rob Lanier literally got fired because SMU got lied to.
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Seems like something Muss would do
 
Setting up to be...

Muss - USC
Beard - Arky
Wade - Ole Miss


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But Wade to Arky makes a lot of sense as well.

 
StoopsBros said:
Muss finessed this entire situation, starting with SMU.

So his sister is married to (or recently married) SMU's largest donor. He and the sister convinced the SMU donor to fire Lanier.

All the while, knowing Enfield has always had an affinity for Dallas and that he was on the hot seat, he apparently reached out to USC and told them he would come if they got rid of Enfield.

USC was either going to fire Enfield or push him to another job and when they called SMU to see if they were going to fire Lanier, they were obviously told it was happening.


Rob Lanier literally got fired because SMU got lied to.
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What a slimeball.
 
If Muss goes to USC, they will have head coaches in the men's revenue sports that....though I try to follow my better angels.....are easy for me to dislike. :)

I would not be in favor of a Wade hire knowing what we know about him at LSU. However, did really like the way his VCU team played that Hield, Cousins Final Four team played in Sweet 16 maybe, too lazy to look it up. They were a tough out, as I recall.
 
TopherB560 said:
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Absolutely hilarious and frustrating at the same time. If you’re Arkansas you’re chartering Musselman’s flight on the school jet to make this trade right now.

Beard truly is a mercenary. Ole Miss threw him a life preserver and he made it onto dry land and ditched them at sea without so much as a thanks.
 
I've never understood why Beard is rated so highly on this board. Good coach, yes, but elite? I don't see it. And the word was he had all kinds of personal issues at Tech so what happened at texas wasn't just a blip. Throw in the aforementioned mercenary approach he takes to advancing his career, and I wouldn't take him at OU even if he agreed to a five-figure salary.

I get that we're all eager for some good basketball, but if it means hiring a slimeball coach like Wade or Beard, I can wait a little longer (and I'm not getting any younger).
 
skyvue said:
I've never understood why Beard is rated so highly on this board. Good coach, yes, but elite? I don't see it. And the word was he had all kinds of personal issues at Tech so what happened at texas wasn't just a blip. Throw in the aforementioned mercenary approach he takes to advancing his career, and I wouldn't take him at OU even if he agreed to a five-figure salary.

I get that we're all eager for some good basketball, but if it means hiring a slimeball coach like Wade or Beard, I can wait a little longer (and I'm not getting any younger).
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Beard almost won a national championship at Tech. Then in Texas' 2nd year, he had a team so good that a complete moron had them looking like a top 5 team in late March.
 
Eielson said:
Beard almost won a national championship at Tech. Then in Texas' 2nd year, he had a team so good that a complete moron had them looking like a top 5 team in late March.
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He had two espeiclally good years at Tech; his final two years there was virtually identical to Kruger's at OU--a span of time that you were calling for Kruger to be fired--and there were whispers of questionable practices and poor behavior on Beard's part at Tech. In any case, the notion of giving him credit for a season at texas in which he was fired before the conference season even started is an odd one (also? Any coach who couldn't put together a talented roster at texas during the portal/NIL ERA is a poor coach indeed).

And then there's the fact that Beard didn't get to coach that talented 22-23 texas team very long because of a domestic abuse incident. Which really should be a mark against him, don't you think? I mean, somehow, in his long and storied career, Lon Kruger was never arrested for a violent offense--perhaps he just got lucky. Moser's career is less storied, but he too has avoided arrest so far, knock on wood.

Most coaches fired for scandalous behavior have to sit idly for a while or perhaps take an assistant position at a lesser school, but Ole Miss threw Beard a lifeline it's fair to say he didn't really deserve. And he is, it appears, about to show his gratitude to them by cutting and running to another SEC school after a single season.

Yeah, he's a real catch, that Beard.
 
skyvue said:
He had two espeiclally good years at Tech; his final two years there was virtually identical to Kruger's at OU--a span of time that you were calling for Kruger to be fired--and there were whispers of questionable practices and poor behavior on Beard's part at Tech. In any case, the notion of giving him credit for a season at texas in which he was fired before the conference season even started is an odd one (also? Any coach who couldn't put together a talented roster at texas during the portal/NIL ERA is a poor coach indeed).

And then there's the fact that Beard didn't get to coach that talented 22-23 texas team very long because of a domestic abuse incident. Which really should be a mark against him, don't you think? I mean, somehow, in his long and storied career, Lon Kruger was never arrested for a violent offense--perhaps he just got lucky. Moser's career is less storied, but he too has avoided arrest so far, knock on wood.

Most coaches fired for scandalous behavior have to sit idly for a while or perhaps take an assistant position at a lesser school, but Ole Miss threw Beard a lifeline it's fair to say he didn't really deserve. And he is, it appears, about to show his gratitude to them by cutting and running to another SEC school after a single season.

Yeah, he's a real catch, that Beard.
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Always kind of felt the same way. His record at Tech was very Capel like in some way, without the disastrous drop off at the end.

But similar in the fact he had one good year and one outstanding year and the rest were average at best. And like Capel, it makes one curious as to whether it was the coaching or was it the player. Did Beard deserve all the credit for the FF run or should it go to Jarrettt Culver? Like Blake, he was a highly ranked local kid. But after Culver was drafted, very mid results for Beard.

And, IIRC, he had double digit losses and an underwhelming, maybe underachieving, one full year at Texas. Even with all their talent and resources, and TTU actually finished ahead of them that year after he left. Without Culver.

iMO, sky said it best- good coach but not as great as the hype. With a lots of baggage. Emphasis on the word LOTS.
 
skyvue said:
I've never understood why Beard is rated so highly on this board. Good coach, yes, but elite? I don't see it. And the word was he had all kinds of personal issues at Tech so what happened at texas wasn't just a blip. Throw in the aforementioned mercenary approach he takes to advancing his career, and I wouldn't take him at OU even if he agreed to a five-figure salary.

I get that we're all eager for some good basketball, but if it means hiring a slimeball coach like Wade or Beard, I can wait a little longer (and I'm not getting any younger).
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Taking no personal issues from Beard:

He took Little-Rock Arkansas from 13-18 to 30-5 with the 33rd ranked defense and 1st round tournament win vs. Purdue in 2016.

Texas Tech had consecutive losing season from 2011-2015. They were absolute dogs*** from Pat Knight and on.

Tubby's last season was okay, went 19-13 (9-9) in conference. 46th off, 72nd defense.

Then Beard came and ran off 4 straight tournaments (after his initial 2017 season). Had a top-10 defense in three of them. 3-seeds in two of those years.
He made the tournament in 4 straight years. Something that most on here would want with runs and a national title game.

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*Look at all the green...

Then at Texas, before he tried to Macho Man Randy Savage his wife, They were 10-2 before he was dismissed at Big12 play. That roster still finished 15th overall in KenPom and a 6-seed. He was doing solid things.

Again, this is all to revamp a college in Lubbock for basketball which is the absolute worst city in America.
 

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StoopsBros said:
This is what Trilly said about Muss/SMU...


Muss finessed this entire situation, starting with SMU.

So his sister is married to (or recently married) SMU's largest donor. He and the sister convinced the SMU donor to fire Lanier.

All the while, knowing Enfield has always had an affinity for Dallas and that he was on the hot seat, he apparently reached out to USC and told them he would come if they got rid of Enfield.

USC was either going to fire Enfield or push him to another job and when they called SMU to see if they were going to fire Lanier, they were obviously told it was happening.


Rob Lanier literally got fired because SMU got lied to.
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That would be disgraceful if true. Rob Lanier was only at SMU for two years. They went from 10-22 to 20-13 with an NIT bid. That is a very good one-year turnaround, so there was no legit reason to fire him for his record. They obviously used the "moving to a better conference" excuse to "upgrade". I'm just not aware of a head coach being fired right after doubling his win total from the prior season.
 
skyvue said:
He had two espeiclally good years at Tech; his final two years there was virtually identical to Kruger's at OU--a span of time that you were calling for Kruger to be fired--and there were whispers of questionable practices and poor behavior on Beard's part at Tech. In any case, the notion of giving him credit for a season at texas in which he was fired before the conference season even started is an odd one (also? Any coach who couldn't put together a talented roster at texas during the portal/NIL ERA is a poor coach indeed).

And then there's the fact that Beard didn't get to coach that talented 22-23 texas team very long because of a domestic abuse incident. Which really should be a mark against him, don't you think? I mean, somehow, in his long and storied career, Lon Kruger was never arrested for a violent offense--perhaps he just got lucky. Moser's career is less storied, but he too has avoided arrest so far, knock on wood.

Most coaches fired for scandalous behavior have to sit idly for a while or perhaps take an assistant position at a lesser school, but Ole Miss threw Beard a lifeline it's fair to say he didn't really deserve. And he is, it appears, about to show his gratitude to them by cutting and running to another SEC school after a single season.

Yeah, he's a real catch, that Beard.
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90% of this post is about his sketchy character, which I fully agree with. I don't want him. My only point was that the guy can win, and at a sketchy place like many SEC schools, he is absolutely a fit.

After losing in the national championship, he finished in a tie for third in conference. That's a far cry from Lon's 11-20 season he followed up Buddy with. He was also at Tech, which may be considered a better program now, but it sure wasn't when Lon took over. Those two seasons you singled out were Lon's best in the final 5 years, and not the ones that I singled out as most frustrating. On the flip side, you've praised Lon as a HOF coach, so matching his output at a lesser program would speak to his coaching ability, yes?

He's absolutely a loser off the court, but he wins on the court. You can talk about his character all you want, but that would be a strawman. I'm not going to engage in that.
 
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