Bruce Weber to Kansas State, according to CBS Sports

Nice hire. He's every bit as good if not better than Frank Martin. I would say better.

It's funny to hear the sawyer talking down to Kansas State. Kansas State, another school with a winning record over the clowns from columbia.
 
Terrible hire.
Instead of trying to hit a home run kstate has decided to sacrifice bunt with nobody on base.
 
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All I know is, this is just one more sign that things are slowly getting back to normal.

OU will be back up in the top 1/3 of the league and KSU will be back in the bottom 1/3 in the near future.
 
kansas state's .504 winning percentage against Missouri doesn't make this move more impressive.
 
I don't know if it's a good or bad hire. I know when his name surfaced in our search last year, no one was excited about him. The oddest thing to me is that he was hired fairly quickly. How many coaches did KSU look at? It can't be very many.
 
Nice hire. He's every bit as good if not better than Frank Martin. I would say better.

Sarcasm? I'm guessing not. You'd rather have a guy that just got fired from Illinois than a guy that did so well in Manhattan, KS, that he was hired away? There's a reason Frank Martin left that place and it starts with the guy that just hired Weber.

Frank Martin got a job at a tough place to win and then proceeded to win. Ask Dana Altman about winning at KSU, a coach that has succeeded everywhere else he's been...heck ask Lon Kruger why he left his alma mater. Martin had proven and sustained success in a very strong Big 12. In my lifetime (I'm 37) KSU basketball has been good for a total of about ten years. About 4 under Kruger in the Mitch Richmond/Steve Henson days. And then the year under Huggins, and the following Martin era, about 6 seasons total. That speaks very highly, IMO, of Frank Martin. A guy that players evidently LOVE to play for.

Weber pulled a Frank Haith and inherited a very nice squad from Self and had early success and then went into the tank. Although we don't know what Haith will do at Mizzou (may continue to do very well) we do know what happened with Weber at Illinois.

I'll put it most simply this way - 100 Div-1 coaches led their team to the postseason this year, either in the NCAA or NIT. And KSU went elsewhere to hire their coach. Hell, the coach at Norfolk State (or wherever, I don't know) would at least have been a decent gamble in terms of manufacturing excitement. If you spend 5, 6, seasons at 90+% of "BCS" schools you better be on the 'upswing' towards the end of that 5th/6th season, or else you shouldn't be considered for another "BCS" job. Include Jeff Capel in that too. Mid-major? Sure. That's where any of these fired coaches should go back to prove themselves again.
 
Haith didn't inherit a top 3 pick in the NBA draft.

Weber landed at an absolute goldmine and pissed it all away.
 
"Weber told ESPN.com that he probably should have considered openings at Oklahoma and Missouri last season, but really wanted to coach the 2011-12 Illinois team. He also said his family loved living in Champaign."

I guess we had to settle for Lon instead.
 
"Weber told ESPN.com that he probably should have considered openings at Oklahoma and Missouri last season, but really wanted to coach the 2011-12 Illinois team. He also said his family loved living in Champaign."

I guess we had to settle for Lon instead.
I should have considered the opening at Oklahoma and Missouri as well. I guess OU had to settle for Lon.
 
"Weber told ESPN.com that he probably should have considered openings at Oklahoma and Missouri last season, but really wanted to coach the 2011-12 Illinois team. He also said his family loved living in Champaign."

I guess we had to settle for Lon instead.

More proof Weber's an idiot.

Clearly the right call would've been taking the Duke or UNC job. Why he passed on those options to stay at Illinois will forever remain a mystery.
 
Weber was on OUs wish list last year with Kruger & Buzz and said no thanks. Why do people have such trouble admitting this? He's a great hire for KSU while Frank Martin was an incompetent hire by South Carolina.

KSU will not miss a beat with Weber over Martin.
 
Weber was on OUs wish list last year with Kruger & Buzz and said no thanks. Why do people have such trouble admitting this? He's a great hire for KSU while Frank Martin was an incompetent hire by South Carolina.

KSU will not miss a beat with Weber over Martin.

In the past five years...

Frank Martin:
117-54 (68%) overall
50-32 (61%) conference
6-4 NCAA tournament

Bruce Weber:
98-73 (57%) overall
41-49 (46%) conference
1-2 NCAA tournament

He's not an awful coach, but to act as if he's been anything but a huge disappointment after Self's players graduated would be dishonest.
 
So Frank Martin's elite 8 in his 2nd year is due to his coaching while Bruce Weber's trip to the championship game in his 2nd year is due to Self's players.

You belong in the SEC with the other knuckleheads. Why are you still here? Seriously why does anybody care about the 6th or 7th best program from the Big XII that has been upgraded with a better program?
 
So Frank Martin's elite 8 in his 2nd year is due to his coaching while Bruce Weber's trip to the championship game in his 2nd year is due to Self's players.

You belong in the SEC with the other knuckleheads. Why are you still here? Seriously why does anybody care about the 6th or 7th best program from the Big XII that has been upgraded with a better program?

Martin absolutely benefitted from Huggins' recruits. But the elite eight team was more Martin than Huggins (Pullen and Sutton were the only two Huggins recruits on that team who played a major role... and Martin was the lead recruiter on Pullen).

I'm not saying Weber doesn't deserve credit for what he did in his first few years at Illinois. He absolutely does. But what he did after those first few years is pretty revealing. Martin took what was left to him and kept building. Weber did the opposite.
 
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Blame Kelvin & Bill Self for Bruce Weber's sub-par performances in the past few years. Once Kelvin talked Eric Gordon out of his Illinois commitment, it was all downhill from there.

When you get a de-commitment from a prime recruit, other big-time recruits start questioning. Plus, Weber struggled recruiting against Self for the Chicago players.

I'd say revenge may be playing a part in Weber's hook up with K-State.
 
I really don't see the problem with this hire. He is an experienced guy, good coach, I bet he does well at K-State.

Frank Martin was a thug who got fired and banned from coaching high school basketball in the state of Florida and got their wins vacated for cheating.

As for Weber getting fired from Illinois, sometimes good coaches get fired. There are a lot of different reasons for poor performance at a particular place.

Hell, Trent Johnson, TCU's new coach has been WAC coach of the year, Pac-10 coach of the year, and SEC coach of the year and he was about to get fired from TCU. How many guys win coach of the year in every league they coach in and get fired? It was about to happen to Trent Johnson. Doesnt mean the guy cant coach.

Doug Wojcik has more wins than any coach in TU history, and he got fired.

It happens.

I bet Weber does a very good job at K-State. I remember everyone saying that Haith was a bad hire for MU and they had a fantastic year, if not for the early tournament loss. But hey, **** happens.
 
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